Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 31-01-2016, 07:13   #46
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Caribbean - currently cruising Virgin Islands
Boat: Lagoon 39
Posts: 129
Re: Should we or Shouldn't we buy Lagoon 380 or 400?

We have a deal! We located what we believe is an above average condition Lagoon 380 and successfully negotiated a FSBO purchase price.

I've hired a quality surveyor who is experienced with Lagoons. The haul-out at Nanny Cay Marina is tentatively scheduled. In two weeks I fly down to St. Thomas to conduct an inspection, survey and sea trial.

In three weeks, if things go according to plan, my bride and I will be proud owners of a Lagoon 380. Bring on the champaign!
__________________

__________________
faa50 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-01-2016, 07:14   #47
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Winter Germany, Summer Med
Boat: Lagoon 380 S2
Posts: 1,030
Re: Should we or Shouldn't we buy Lagoon 380 or 400?

Thats fast!!
Good luck with the survey
__________________

__________________
rabbi is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 31-01-2016, 07:41   #48
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Caribbean - currently cruising Virgin Islands
Boat: Lagoon 39
Posts: 129
Re: Should we or Shouldn't we buy Lagoon 380 or 400?

In one sense yes. But truth be know its taken seven months of diligent work, research, due diligence, walking boat yards, traveling thousands of miles, talking with boat yard mechanics, climbing through the bowels of a variety of boats in a variety of condition, listening to more than I care to remember selling brokers spin, lengthy interviews with owners, failed surveys and a ton of persistence get to the point we know what we are looking for, what is reasonable and how to successfully work through all the challenges of putting together a deal. For me, this has been pretty much a full time job for the past seven months. Kinda like climbing a mountain peak.

Enjoyable, frustrating at times but well worth the experience. Hopefully we have dodged the many pitfalls awaiting an unsuspecting or uninformed buyer.

The saying "One has to kiss a lot of frogs to find a prince." comes to mind here.
__________________
faa50 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2016, 08:43   #49
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Caribbean - currently cruising Virgin Islands
Boat: Lagoon 39
Posts: 129
Re: Should we or Shouldn't we buy Lagoon 380 or 400?

HERE'S ONE FOR THE BOOKS !!!!!

Well as you can see from my prior post, wife and I thought we had found our dream boat. We are learning that one never knows where the challenges of buying a boat are going to show up.

Have you ever heard of a surveyor REFUSING to do a survey? $1,200 for a day's work would indicate that there must be a super strong incentive to turn this kind of money down. Guess what - AN IMMINENT LAWSUIT is just the ticket to cause a prudent, professional surveyor to back away from conducting a survey.

Intimidation by an owner so as to cause a surveyor to NOT put the owner's boat through the normal paces of a survey (runs engines

Cudoos to my surveyor for having the ethics and integrity to alert me and pull the plug even when it hits his bottom line.
Sooooo...we are back to looking for a Lagoon 400 or 380 to buy !!!
__________________
faa50 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2016, 08:47   #50
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Caribbean - currently cruising Virgin Islands
Boat: Lagoon 39
Posts: 129
Re: Should we or Shouldn't we buy Lagoon 380 or 400?

We heard from several folks, some surveyors and some owners of Leopards. They are suggesting we consider this brand: Models 40'-45' for cruising and live aboard.

Would appreciate hearing from owners of Leopards as to what there experiences have been in 20'-35' seas, winds 30-45 knots etc. Do you consider this a seaworthy boat for offshore cruising? We understand that most of these models were built for the charter industry.
__________________
faa50 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2016, 14:41   #51
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Mediterranean
Boat: Lagoon 380 #069
Posts: 112
Re: Should we or Shouldn't we buy Lagoon 380 or 400?

Quote:
Originally Posted by faa50 View Post
We heard from several folks, some surveyors and some owners of Leopards. They are suggesting we consider this brand: Models 40'-45' for cruising and live aboard.

Would appreciate hearing from owners of Leopards as to what there experiences have been in 20'-35' seas, winds 30-45 knots etc. Do you consider this a seaworthy boat for offshore cruising? We understand that most of these models were built for the charter industry.
I'm not a Leopard owner but I am friends with one. We crossed the Atlantic together in late November and have been in contact since the summer. He was also set on a Lagoon 380/400 before settling on Leopard 40. They are great boats each one has quirks the designers chose. For instance all of his tanks are accessible and can be easily removed. Our Lagoon, the tanks are behind bulkheads and well braced. And a lot of work to get to. He has 2 fresh water systems: port and starboard. So 2 pumps, 2 tanks, 2 calorifiers.

During the crossing his engines were off limits. The engine compartment hatches were just above the waterline. With 2 meter following seas the waves breaked right over the swim step and occasionally entered the cockpit lounge (it sounds worse than it was).

After crossing the Atlantic on a L380 and following our friends L40 I'm pretty confident in their seaworthiness.
__________________
yardie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2016, 11:59   #52
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Caribbean - currently cruising Virgin Islands
Boat: Lagoon 39
Posts: 129
Re: Should we or Shouldn't we buy Lagoon 380 or 400?

In conducting our research on Lagoons, both Leopard 40 and Fountaine Pajot Lipari 41 are mentioned as comparable boats. Are they really? We just don't have enough information to know....

Comparable as in seaworthiness, safety, comfort and resale value? Certainly other owners have traveled down this well worn path as we now find ourselves enjoying.

We are impressed with the Lagoons but wondering if we might be overlooking some good opportunities in similar models?
__________________
faa50 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2016, 12:11   #53
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Winter Germany, Summer Med
Boat: Lagoon 380 S2
Posts: 1,030
Re: Should we or Shouldn't we buy Lagoon 380 or 400?

Quote:
Originally Posted by faa50 View Post
In conducting our research on Lagoons, both Leopard 40 and Fountaine Pajot Lipari 41 are mentioned as comparable boats. Are they really? We just don't have enough information to know....

Comparable as in seaworthiness, safety, comfort and resale value? Certainly other owners have traveled down this well worn path as we now find ourselves enjoying.

We are impressed with the Lagoons but wondering if we might be overlooking some good opportunities in similar models?
They all do most of the things right, others not so much. I would not consider one better than the other in most aspects.

At the end you can choose any of those and get a decent production boat, each with its own set of small issues, and each with a relatively stable & predicatble resale value.

I would be open minded, look around what is available and buy the one that looks like the best deal. I do have preferences just like anybody else, but at the end it could be any of the three.
__________________

__________________
rabbi is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
lagoon, lagoon 380

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
400: Lagoon 400 or 400 S2 Big Joe Bob Lagoon Catamarans 20 11-01-2015 14:12
Should I or Shouldn't I? SeaRags Dollars & Cents 26 10-08-2013 21:13
2013 Lagoon 380 or 2010 Maverick 400? CountingCrows Multihull Sailboats 48 26-01-2013 17:39
If Jess Shouldn't Go, then Neither Should Abby Factor Cruising News & Events 2 21-10-2009 09:11



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:13.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.