Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 23-01-2012, 05:02   #16
Registered User
 
Katiusha's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 800
Re: Shipping France to Australia

Have you looked into Dockwise (Yacht Transport :: Dockwise :: Exceptional Transport Management)? The boat sails onto and off the ship - much less chance for dropping/damaging the boat during loading and offloading. Because of this they are also much faster - only 24 hours at each port as opposed to 3-4 days for regular cargo ships. Their prices are comparable to other shipping companies.
If you have the guts to wait until the last minute (about 2 weeks before ship's departure), you can get a VERY good deal, like 1/2 off.
They have good agents over the phone, and if you ask them to send you a quote, it won't change before the shipping date.
We were very pleased with them.
__________________

__________________
Katiusha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-01-2012, 06:02   #17
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Holland, France
Boat: 33ft sloop
Posts: 1,091
Images: 5
Re: Shipping France to Australia

In 1980 I shipped a De Vrie Lentsch 16 mtr Motoryacht to S' pore for already 35K US$. At that time the US$ was 2.20 to the Dutch Florin.
The boat was welded into a cradle on deck of a general cargo vessel.
Today, those vessels are nearly extinct. A container vessel is not equipped for this sort of transports, neither is a bulkcarrier.
So, the soup is very thin.
I see a feasible route from Rotterdam/Amsterdam to S' pore by way of autocarrier. That is to be arranged. Remains the transport from France to one of these ports.
You have to arrange for a suitable cradle yourself.
Those car-carriers ferry between Asia and Amsterdam/Rotterdam.
Maybe you can check this angle of attack.
__________________

__________________
MacG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-01-2012, 06:15   #18
Registered User
 
stillbuilding's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Hong Kong
Boat: Custom Freya 20m
Posts: 961
Try some different shipping lines. Tell them you can move the pickup and destinations to suit. I am moving a mast and was easy to Singapore but more difficult to Hong Kong from Houston.

I see cement mixing trucks and all sorts of wonderful stuff moving on top of container ships in HK so cannot see that a more stable and lighter boat would be a problem.

Try China Shipping. Houston may be good. Try Peters and May based in the UK - they do not seem fazed by this sort of project.

Might need go drop off at an intermediate port and sail the rest of the way.
__________________
stillbuilding is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-01-2012, 06:36   #19
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Holland, France
Boat: 33ft sloop
Posts: 1,091
Images: 5
Re: Shipping France to Australia

Dockwise costs a fortune ..... forget it. Only Megayacht fodder .......
__________________
MacG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-01-2012, 06:57   #20
Freelance Delivery Skipper..
 
boatman61's Avatar

Community Sponsor
Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: UK/Portugal
Posts: 20,210
Images: 2
Send a message via Skype™ to boatman61
pirate Re: Shipping France to Australia

Quote:
Originally Posted by Armagh View Post
Expensive from Europe to Aus. Probably cannot get insurance if using Suez Canal. So, its the long way either Atlantic plus Pacific crossings, or around Cape of Good Hope. I'd say $50-60k if you are lucky, before spares/sail replacement etc
Try cutting that by at least half... unless your using the 'Big Boys..' if using an 'Independent' it'd be around$20k+expenses...
And sails will only be thrapped if driven to a time... most sail to instructions... which are usually times set by owners based on average hull speed... not reality...
__________________


Born To Be Wild
boatman61 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-01-2012, 08:26   #21
Registered User
 
stillbuilding's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Hong Kong
Boat: Custom Freya 20m
Posts: 961
Knocking up a suitable cradle should be very easily achieved with minimal welding skills and bit if steel.

I have seen two such cradles sold on eBay for less than 2k. Cost no more than 4k DIY - just need to know the container measurements to lock it down.
__________________
stillbuilding is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-01-2012, 09:12   #22
Registered User
 
Katiusha's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 800
Re: Shipping France to Australia

Quote:
Originally Posted by MacG View Post
Dockwise costs a fortune ..... forget it. Only Megayacht fodder .......
When we (35' sailboat) and our friends (42' sailboat) were comparing the prices, the price difference between reg shipping and Dockwise was 5-10% depending on departure date. That was 1.5 years ago.

Reg shipping is less equipped to handle boats, as other posts point out. For us, much decreased risk of damage (even if insured) was worth the 5% price increase.
__________________
Katiusha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-01-2012, 09:15   #23
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Holland, France
Boat: 33ft sloop
Posts: 1,091
Images: 5
Re: Shipping France to Australia

Quote:
Originally Posted by stillbuilding View Post
Knocking up a suitable cradle should be very easily achieved with minimal welding skills and bit if steel.

I have seen two such cradles sold on eBay for less than 2k. Cost no more than 4k DIY - just need to know the container measurements to lock it down.
I don't think that will satisfy the surveyor of the insurance coy. But that' s another story.
__________________
MacG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-01-2012, 10:10   #24
Registered User
 
stillbuilding's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Hong Kong
Boat: Custom Freya 20m
Posts: 961
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacG

I don't think that will satisfy the surveyor of the insurance coy. But that' s another story.
Substantial cradle adequate for the task can be constructed by anyone. Just has to be good enough to pass the insurer inspection. No one is licensed for this purpose to my knowledge.
__________________
stillbuilding is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-01-2012, 11:16   #25
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 25
Re: Shipping France to Australia

I've shipped some boats from the Far East and prices vary widely. I'd highly recommend getting a delivery quote on its own bottom from a reputable company.....they cover everything in plastic down below and write a report about the operating systems....just tell me where the boat is, where it has to go and give me some info on the boat.
__________________
BOATaHOLIC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-01-2012, 15:10   #26
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 5
Hello all, I'm negotiating to purchase (cruising cat) in the Med myself, view sail home the long way, after some Med cruising. I have plenty of time. The boat could be ready about mid May. My thinking have two or three bites of the cherry. I have looked at a couple of other boats over the last couple of years and canvassed the ferry options with Dockwise and with ferry skipper Graham Harris who was very helpful. At this stage I would like to flag an interest, thinking two or three boats together would be a good plan. There is no doubt that Med boats are incredible value at present, having had internet boats coming out my ears for the last couple of years and having tripped to S. Africa and the Caribbean looking.

From my researches there some risks with general shipping companies, particularly if you ship as deck cargo on a standard freighter. Damage and pilfering I heard tell of, second hand admittedly. Obviously there is no best way of ferry for everyone, it being a boat type and condition, time, cost and experience factoring problem, but I'm favouring a self ferry, maybe with paid help or skipper.
__________________
5baron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-01-2012, 23:24   #27
Registered User
 
Barra's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Western Australia
Boat: between boats
Posts: 808
Re: Shipping France to Australia

Thanks for all the replies guys - appreciate it.

Funnily enough with some negotiation the "cartel" have dropped their prices by 30% which puts them back in market vs other shippers at least. Amazing how volatile the quotes are though and it definitley pays to shop around.

I've seen quotes from between $18,000 (for delivery option) to $105,000 for a freighter via singapore and everything in between.

Im looking at delivery options now as the most affordable way (im in the sub $400k market alright) and like the idea of joining in on part of the passage as time allows to beef up the offshore skills but admit im a bit concerned about wear and tear with the wrong crew.

Any recommendations on reliable skippers much appreciated here!
__________________
Barra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-01-2012, 23:33   #28
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 830
Images: 27
Re: Shipping France to Australia

Art Steffey on this forum :-) !
__________________
ausaviator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-01-2012, 01:07   #29
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Fethiye Turkey
Boat: Lagoon 440
Posts: 3,164
Re: Shipping France to Australia

The south african leopards are delivered to the caribbean by delivery crews i know one of the skippers at wet and wild cruises in the Whitsundays does these deliveries on a as needed basis for Moorings etc. I'm sure they would be interested and as trustworthy as you'll get.
A good idea to join them on various legs in your own interest? Cheers Frank
__________________
"Political correctness is a creeping sickness that knows no boundaries"
Lagoon4us is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-01-2012, 06:14   #30
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 25
Re: Shipping France to Australia

Reliance Yacht Management are the largest yacht delivery company in the world.. I've done business with them for 15 years and can recommend them....
__________________

__________________
BOATaHOLIC is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
Australia, France, shipping

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Want To Buy: Lagoon 380 World Cruising Gear in France or Australia monte Classifieds Archive 10 27-03-2012 10:58
Hello from Australia Coops Meets & Greets 13 31-01-2012 00:52
Shipping Yacht from LA to Australia Ian McD Our Community 5 01-10-2011 20:50
Le Havre (or Dunkerque), France to Mediterranean, Help Needed Kimmo Europe & Mediterranean 16 22-07-2011 04:38
For Sale: Space Available in Shipping Container: US to Australia RapidTransit Classifieds Archive 5 20-06-2011 09:14



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 13:11.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.