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Old 14-10-2014, 07:19   #16
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8. I also spent 4 hours in a multihull forum, sponsored by "OOOT- rih-MARE", and it was wonderful! I learned so much about different kinds of catamarans... sailing configurations.. engines... power usage.. watermakers... blue water passages... living aboard. It was really a great experience and well worth our $25.00 to attend. I highly recommend doing something like that at a show.
I was there, should have said hello, I was on the panel.
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Re: Scarlet's Annapolis Review

I think the biggest take away from Scarlett's review is: you cant find a boat looking at videos, crunching numbers, or theorizing about design. You have to go touch and feel
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Re: Scarlet's Annapolis Review

I've only been to the Miami show, twice.

Is there anyone on here that has been to both recently and advise if there is any advantage to one from the other? (Annapolis vs. Miami)

Thanks.
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I've been to both but it's been years. I found Annapolis far better. Old info though....
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I thought the Helia was the best Cat at the show (I'm not counting the Gunboats). I love the hull space and the lounging fly-bridge. Like you, I wasn't impressed with the interior hull size of the Saba, it had super narrow doorways (that I couldn't understand the purpose of).

I was able to go out on Saturday on a Lagoon 380, there was absolutely no wind, which was quite a shame.

Here are some of my pics from the show:

Annapolis Images | SV Sprocket

You and I were sailing at the same time!! and there was very little wind, you are right! and I agree.. Helia.. was the best in show!
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Re: Scarlet's Annapolis Review

Thanks Scarlet - glad to hear that you had so much fun and that it stoked the fires of your sailing desire (apologies for the bad rhyme). As always, I also enjoyed your unfiltered commentary. Out of interest, now that you have some time on the water, have read some more and have seen more boats, do you think your (and your husband's) priorities, or at least the criteria you use in assessing boats, have changed?

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On a side not, I sure was impressed with one wood boat - 92ft or so, beautiful workmanship and only 5.5 million!

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Scarlet.... YOU KILL ME!!!

And I thought you were fired up at the last show... My computer screen is actually pulsating a bit...

Glad you had fun... Glad you got to weed out the undesirables... Glad you are part of CF...

If I ever invite you to a dinner party, there will be a non dissemination contract to sign on the entry table...
Yup! I'm a character! I get pretty passionate about stuff!

and a "non dissemination contract"? is that the same as.. "What goes on in Vegas.. STAYS in Vegas?!"
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I was there, should have said hello, I was on the panel.

YES!!! I LOVED you!! You were so informative! Thank you so much for doing that. I think we were actually introduced.. but you wouldn't have remembered me.

Do you think you would do something like that again?
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I've only been to the Miami show, twice.

Is there anyone on here that has been to both recently and advise if there is any advantage to one from the other? (Annapolis vs. Miami)

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YES.. ME! I was at both this year. Personally, I preferred Annapolis. Even though there were more sailboats at Annapolis.. it was actually a much smaller show than Miami, and thusly.. not so overwhelming. Miami is 3 separate venues... and the convention center with all the vendors in Miami was just so huge. I think Miami is really geared towards the power boat market. That being said.. Miami did have a very good showing of catamarans.

If I could only go to one show.. I'd go to Annapolis.
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Yup! I'm a character! I get pretty passionate about stuff!

and a "non dissemination contract"? is that the same as.. "What goes on in Vegas.. STAYS in Vegas?!"

Sure makes your posts fun to read... Sometimes the screen vibrates...

and yes... I see you're familiar with the concept...

"What happens on the boat stays on the boat"... You can hint though... like...

Me n hubby were rockin' the boat O'day long...
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Out of interest, now that you have some time on the water, have read some more and have seen more boats, do you think your (and your husband's) priorities, or at least the criteria you use in assessing boats, have changed?

Brad
Hi Brad!! missed you at the show! In answer to your question, somewhat. Some of our criteria has not changed at all. We still want a good balance between performance and liveability. Since we will be live-a-boards, I can't be in a boat that is cramped. It would, literally drive me crazy. So, I realy like the more opened designs. One of the reasons I liked the helia, but hated the Saba, (which is a MUCH bigger boat). Helia is very open in the hulls. Saba was not. I couldn't stand the small hallway, and tiny doors. In fact, in one of the cabins.. the door hit the bed. too small. I also still want 2 outside areas. We need some space to ourselves. I need to go off, and curl up with a book, and so does he.

The things that have changed are:

1. I no longer have any desire to buy a new boat. The used boats we have seen are very nice, and there is too much depreciation on the new ones.
2. I have to really watch the deck design.. I want everything to be as level as possible. I don't want either of us to trip, or fall because there are too many uneven spots on the deck.
3. I'm really starting to look at rigging, and what that means to the sailability of the boat. I also have noticed that some of the cats do not have "all lines running to the helm".
4. I don't need a big galley like I originally thought.
5. Bridgedeck clearance has become very important.
6. after our seminar we took, I'm really leaning towards no 'genset'... The panel seemed to agree that with a good alternator, lithium batteries, and adequate wind and solar panels.. you should be able to get by without it..
7. Watermake is VERY important now.. before it was a want.. now it is a need based on how we want to sail.
8. NO WOOD on DECK!!! it is a LOT of upkeep that I don't want!
9. helm placement has become a HUGE discussion. There seems to be no real good place for the helm.. so, that will continue to be a consideration.
10. I do NOT want a helm chair.. I want a moulded seat!

I'm sure there is more...
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