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Old 27-05-2016, 15:58   #16
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Re: RAPIDO Trimaran - Dreams come true

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I see.

I hope they will have all success and we will see many of them plying the oceans!

Somehow, this concept is easier to swallow than Neel. And sure Paradox is the cream, but there is only one and she is not mine.

I had a very close look at a Multi50 thinking if we could convert one. I have seen Rayon Vert before .... but they are very very small inside, I think living volume comparable to a Folkboat or thereabout. Too small for extended trips.

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Paradox has a very sketchy small interior:

It is practically a racing boat with a much less voluminous central hull (and a lot less interior volume).


Paradox is a much more edgy boat to sail than the Rapido 60 and I would say it requires much more attention and care and unless you are a sailing solo top racer, a crew.

The multi 50 are even more edgy than the Paradox, with a very small central hull and demand great sailing skills to be raced. To be cruised, maybe with a small rig but it would always be a more dificult boat to sail then the Rapido 60, with a lot less interior space and with a much smaller loading ability and the one of the Rapido 60 is not very big (2000kg).
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Old 27-05-2016, 18:44   #17
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I JUST BOUGHT ONE!!

No, I didnt.. I just always wanted to say something like that about a sexy new boat.
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Old 27-05-2016, 19:25   #18
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Wow, thanks for posting. I drool over trimarans large enough to stuff a family into. This one might be workable. I'll have to check the bank account... Nope. Damn.
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Old 28-05-2016, 07:28   #19
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Apparently there is already an order for hull #2, but I have no idea about follow ups to it.



I frankly am not sure what the all up cost of a second Paradox would be. It's for sale for $1.3 million. My guess is that it is specced out a lot like the $1.6 Rapido, but really don't know. The major difference is that paradox is all carbon while these are glass/carbon.



I am kind of with you about the Neel. While I get the concept, it just feels like they gave up most of what makes a trimaran desirable to get the living space. Maybe I am wrong, but I am guessing the Neel is no faster than a performance cat, with far less living space.

Hull number 2 is sold and is definitely under construction at the factory in Vietnam . Honesty in advertising is the only reason we say that the boat is not all carbon . In fact the only glass is only used on the outer hull skins for main hull and floats . This was done to comply with CE cat A requirements . All other structural components of the boat are carbon . Beams , daggerboard case , rudder , daggerboard , chain plate bulkheads are all prepreg cured in a Autoclave , not sure but guessing way more high tech than Any cruising boat short of Holland Composites G4 on the market .

All furniture is foam cored with thin veneers to keep it light .

We have female molds for all components and it is a full on production boat designed to appeal to experienced sailors from both monohull and catamarans that want a cruising boat that really can sail most places in comfort at higher than average speeds .

Hull number 1 is well equipped and ready for long distance cruising , has all std features plus all options plus some listed on our web site including a high modulus Southern Spars rotating mast , North 3 Di sails ,




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This is the future for cruising! Reminded me of waterworld Kevin Costner movie
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Old 28-09-2016, 15:03   #21
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Just wanted you to know there is a new youtube movie out since about a week. It dont show any inside but alot around the helm.
Also one can see that the manufacturer finally understood that the 2 tiny solar panels installed to begin with was way small.

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Old 29-09-2016, 05:23   #22
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I had the enormous pleasure to go for a daysail on Rapido 60 in Phuket this August. The wind was gusty, between 15-20 kn and the sea flat. The boat sailed at 13-18kn on a reach, with absolutely no effort. I was invited to take the helm to bring her back to the marina. Tacking upwind, 10-15kn speed, 45° true over ground. No one touched the sails, the selftacking jib worked flawlessly.
I do confirm that the cockpit and the galley makes one big space. When you're inside you still feels like your outside. Great overall vison and ventilation. The cockpit is very sheltered and the two cabins very spacious. Great for live aboard and fast ocean crossings.
Thanks’ again Paul for the invitation.
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Wow, thanks for posting. I drool over trimarans large enough to stuff a family into. This one might be workable. I'll have to check the bank account... Nope. Damn.

Pipeline 2 is for sale;

Trimaran 2000 HUGHES/PERRY Trimaran Trimaran For Sale


63ft...wow!

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It goes for slightly more than 800K in US$-currency. Not bad considering what kind of monohull or cat you get for that price.
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A bit smaller than the rapido yet pretty cool;
Tracer 1500TRi


Haven't got a clue what the thing will cost you.
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Pipeline 2 is for sale;

Trimaran 2000 HUGHES/PERRY Trimaran Trimaran For Sale


63ft...wow!

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For a million less and fully outfitted Pipeline 2 is still a bargain. However, there is just one of them.

I looked at the Rapido 60 website and comment as follows:

As a cruiser with two kayaks and a sailing dinghy one thing I see lacking is space to put them.

On my trimaran I have two additional forward crossbeams (aka) that permit full nets across the front. This frees up the trampoline areas in the rear to accommodate them.

Stress on the forward ama doesn't occur during sailing. It happens when moored in a blow. When doing a three point mooring to prevent fishtailing, there is a high force pushing that forward ama towards the center line (wa'a).

I see an option for extreme weather and assume that means a hardtop pilot house like I have. I get 900 watts solar off that roof and consider it important to have that for a cruising sailor.

Of course even open on the back my cockpit gets hot when sitting in the sun and no wind.

No mention of AC.

I do like the shallow draft of 0.75 meters. However, I can't imagine taking such an expensive sailboat into shallow water. Why risk it? I like to stay in water at least 10 meters deep.

Rig is very expensive to maintain. However, if you have $1.5 mm maintenance doesn't seem to be an issue. However, upon resale it should be.

Laugh all you want, however, I am now of the opinion that if it is a cruising boat, why install a high maintenance racing type rig? This is a cruising boat and should be set up with a cruising rig.

I would change from an 83ft tall mast down to a 50-55 foot mast with a sliding gaff rig. I have a rig like this now.

When you have a small two person cruising team, are you really going to be out on deck in the middle of the night in a storm putting in a reef? At night I drop my main completely and sleep soundly. Any crew member male or female can handle the jib sail if they begin to hear thunder from an approaching squall.

Being built in Vietnam I was expecting a much lower price tag. I gather Southern Spars, the racing rig, as well as all that carbon fiber is grearly increasing costs.

In my book to be a competitive cruising boat price wise it will have to compete with catamarans that are stamped out in molds. Price needs to be around $600k tops at this size and interior space.

Suggestions:

1. Add third set of aka.
2. Make molds of three hulls. And build new hulls using glass and epoxy.
3. Front trampolines.
4. Rear cross beams to support kayaks and dinghy. During crossing.
5. Shorter carbon fiber mast with Hyde Sails to greatly reduce costs. Use sliding gaff rig to eliminate track cars, and high maintance battons.
6. Three side pilot house and 900 watts solar for watermaker and swamp coolers.
7. Rear davit for small day dinghy. How is a cruising couple expected to get the dinghy with engine back aboard every day?

Yes this thing is fast. However, my trimaran also used to be fast and as a consequence it terrified the original owners. Would you have a 70 yo couple stand upon a pilot house in heavy seas and try and put in a reef? They only would cruise with it reefed on the third reef. That is exactly what will occur to cruising couples that buy this boat to go cruising. All that mast and sail area is a waste of money and danger to a cruising couple.

My mast was 79ft and the Rapido is 83ft.

Gasoline storage is an issue for a long term cruiser. In this design Jerry cans of gasoline don't fit inside the aka. Not sure how to cope with that. Portable generator also doesn't fit in the aka.
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