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Old 20-12-2011, 15:58   #16
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Re: Racer/cruisers, am I missing any?

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Still trying to get up to speed on current offerings.

The wish list;

1.) Fast and light
2.) Dagger boards
3.) < $275K used, any age
4.) Not near as important as 1~3, but a large Nav station

"Spartan"

Scape
Formula 40




"Comfortable"

Cantana
Outremer
Manta


Can anyone add to the list of "Spartan" or "Comfortable"?

Thank you

I have been thinking about the same things and here is what I would go for and let me tell you why. A 37' Corsair tri.

Reasons.
I want a boat to get away from people so will probably most likely only have 4 people on board at a time. (Big enough)
Faster than any Production cat and faster than most racing boats.
20hp outboard that lifts out of the water. No zincs and easy to maintain.
bigger tramps to relax on
50cm draft. Can pull onto the beach and go where no other boat can go.
Easily does 250nm a day more like 300
easy to clean, very little stainless.
Easy to moor
Easy to pull out of the water
1/2 -1/3 the price of a cat
points upwind better
Very few things onboard that need fixing.

The point it can go fast means you can go to farther place to explore that you wouldn't have considered, plus able to outrun bad weather. Both huge reasons for me.

All these points make a 37' tri very attractive for me. I own a 46' cat and I spend most of my time cleaning it and fixing things on it. Really need staff or live off it and enjoying spending your days cleaning and fixing stuff if you go that route.

If you haven't owned a cat then it seems like a dream to have one though.
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Old 20-12-2011, 16:22   #17
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I think the Corsair 37 is a beautiful boat but do you think it has the load carrying capability for long term cruising? Seems it wouldn't take much to immerse the hulls.
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Old 20-12-2011, 16:30   #18
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I think the Corsair 37 is a beautiful boat but do you think it has the load carrying capability for long term cruising? Seems it wouldn't take much to immerse the hulls.
Depends on what you want to carry. Food, fuel and basic toys? Sure no problem. The thing is you will need half the amount as you will get there in much less time. We live in a time of excess. Sailing for me is all about getting back to basics. No need for 80% of the stuff people want to bring on board or might as well stay home. I try to be honest to myself on what I really want on board.

That is just me though. And I can afford whatever I want but choose to keep it simple.
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My brother had a Corsair 31 that I've sailed on Lake Tahoe and San Diego. Pretty small inside, but sure could respond to a gust of wind. A lot of fun at Tahoe, running around with a handkerchief of a headsail, chasing down the guys running screechers.
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Sorry, Bob - you're wrong!

See here
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scoll down the list until you see the Freydis and convert back to your US$, asking price is virtually spot on for you before you start talking it down and offer 30% less for a cash deal!
Nice find Roger, it for the size is light enough.
Thanks.
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I've been real interested in the F boats, too. I love the speed and trailerability of the Farrier/Corsairs. But I really question living aboard one for any length of time, at least in our case. We're big people.

We also think we much prefer the open air aspects of living above the waterline on a catamaran, vs living down in the basement of a mono or trimaran. V-berths and 'double' or 'full' size bunks don't get it. At least for anything more than a long weekend.

But it sure would be fun to be able to scoot around like that.
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I've been real interested in the F boats, too. I love the speed and trailerability of the Farrier/Corsairs. But I really question living aboard one for any length of time, at least in our case. We're big people.

We also think we much prefer the open air aspects of living above the waterline on a catamaran, vs living down in the basement of a mono or trimaran. V-berths and 'double' or 'full' size bunks don't get it. At least for anything more than a long weekend.

But it sure would be fun to be able to scoot around like that.
Agree. I am 6'4" and would only go for the 37' no smaller. Has 6'5" headroom, just big enough. Take a look at the 37' seating area. You have a view out the windows same as a cat. Plus I would be eating outside. The table area is lifted off the floor as it needs to be as the hull is very thin. The 37' is not really trailerable down the street very easily. But can be done if needed.

I would say if 2 people then live aboard is doable as many couples do it on 35' monos. But for me it would be maybe 10 days at most. I'll be in the water or out exploring most of the time and would just crash on the boat or read.

Speed, beachability, price, enough space, easy to maintain. That makes it a winner FOR ME, but others may value the Dishwasher and 4 toilets more.
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