Privilege Performance

[REsCat]

Originally Posted by emcmia

In spite of the displacement being nearly 40% greater than advertised, we still enjoy mid-teens performance on beam reaches and downhill tracts.
I have a 43 ft Privilege (owners version), stretched to 47 LOA. Mid teens performance is not unusual with at least 20 kts AWS. Have sailed 16 kts with 1.5 oz assymetrical alone at 25 kts AWS and 160 - 200 AWA.

WOW .... That is "Gunboat" performance for a early 90's Privilege with a declared heavier displacement, I can't count on those figures and I bet I am lighter and have much more sail area.....

Bob

[Seaslug Caravan]

Originally Posted by emcmia

I have a 43 ft Privilege (owners version), stretched to 47 LOA. Mid teens performance is not unusual with at least 20 kts AWS. Have sailed 16 kts with 1.5 oz assymetrical alone at 25 kts AWS and 160 - 200 AWA.

As Paul Keating would say " thats a nice set of numbers".
Sailing at 16 knts, at 160 - 200 AWA ( average 180 so basically you are running square) with 25 knots AWS, therefore TWS is 41 knts right up the clacker.

a/ how did you get the 1.5 oz kite set in one piece with huey howling at 41 knots.
and b/ how the hell did you get it down. With a shotgun maybe?

[SailFastTri]

Originally Posted by emcmia

I have a 43 ft Privilege (owners version), stretched to 47 LOA. Mid teens performance is not unusual with at least 20 kts AWS. Have sailed 16 kts with 1.5 oz assymetrical alone at 25 kts AWS and 160 - 200 AWA.

If you have "mid teens performance with at least 20 kts AWS..." "carrying a 1.5 oz assymetrical alone at 25 kts AWS and 160 - 200 AWA --" then you're carrying WAY TOO MUCH sail for conditions. That would put true wind above 35kts. If you round up or get spun or stuff your bows going down a wave you're flirting with capsize risk.

If that's typical you lack good judgment, IMHO. I wouldn't carry a spinnaker on a cruising boat in more than 20 knots true, especially without having the main up to be able to blanket the spinnaker (so it can more easily be taken down if the wind builds.

[Heath68]

It's a shame this good thread ended there... I was quite keen to find out who decided on what.... and also to see if anyone had new experience of Series 5 performance...?

[Jeannius]

Get a cheap flight to the South of France and go to this event in Cannes next month. I'll forward the full email to you if you pm me with your email address.


INVITATION

The Privilege Marine Team welcomes you to the Cannes Yachting Festival

from September 12th to 17th.

We will be pleased to present you the Privilège Serie 5 "Mi Libertad".

For your invitation, please inform us about your availability by providing your address and the number of your guests so we may schedule a private appointment.

Before your arrival, we remain at your disposal for any further information.

[danielamartindm]

They are not "as slow as they look." Privilege makes a fine cat. If you want the speed and pointing ability, you want daggerboards and a different cat; but Privilege has struck a great compromise, IMO, between Catana and Lagoon.

[Heath68]

If I'm honest I'm kind of torn between series 5 and Xquisite... Ideally nearly new (2-4yrs). Just need to sell a property or find someone willing to take a beach house in Thailand as part payment.

[smj]

Originally Posted by danielamartindm

They are not "as slow as they look." Privilege makes a fine cat. If you want the speed and pointing ability, you want daggerboards and a different cat; but Privilege has struck a great compromise, IMO, between Catana and Lagoon.

Believe it or not, Privilege produced a few of their cats with daggerboards. I believe it was an option sometime in the 90's.

[Naughty Cat]

Cycrille Tricot joined Privelege from Catana last year so maybe we'll see dagger boards as an option again.

[Heath68]

Let's wait and see.. personally I prefer not to have them. The extra work whilst sailing, the weight, the worry about forgetting to bring them up and just knowing how to benefit from them are all (imo) not great things but I find the impact on space inside is the worst thing about them... You seem to have to get to 52+ft to be able to have hulls wide enough for them without losing too much space.

[Naughty Cat]

I like them but agree they are not an added option. In effect the whole boat has to be designed around them and they take up a lot of space.