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Old 14-08-2007, 12:19   #1
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i have noticed that fp, lagoon and broad blue owners all seem to have a thread running. so my question is are there any privilaged people out there
we are hull 40 of the 37ft would like to swap notes mods etc.
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Old 14-08-2007, 12:31   #2
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. . .my question is are there any privilaged people out there
we are hull 40 of the 37ft would like to swap notes mods etc.
You must not be familiar with Dave, of the Privilege 39 Exit Only, or his brilliant website:

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Old 15-08-2007, 10:18   #3
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thanks for that i was aware of dave and his site
what i was hoping for is a bit of an owners forum
perhaps he will drop in hear!
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Philip...

I have 435 hull 23. I don't know of an owner's forum anywhere. With only about 40 boats made each we are a much smaller group of people than those owning one of the mass-market cats.
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Old 15-08-2007, 12:35   #5
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so there are 80 of us to chat!!
we are uk based and plan to go to the med in 3 years
but cruise 3 months of the year and work the rest to get the sailing fund gowing
we do know of two other priv's hear one 37ft and a 43
we know the owners of the 37 but not the 43
do you know any others?
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Philip...

I have 435 hull 23. I don't know of an owner's forum anywhere. With only about 40 boats made each we are a much smaller group of people than those owning one of the mass-market cats.
Hey Mike!!!
He certainly does and what a wonderful boat it is!!
We chartered her for 13 days and really enjoyed the boat, the interior and comfort is second to none, the woodwork and finish is awesome even after 5 years in charter.
One of the best layouts by far I have seen, the build quality is timeless, craftsmanship abounds in compared to any "charter barge"

Sure looking forward to sparring with Jeannius on a fun Flotilla in BVI June '08!! I'll provide a link to THAT event.
We will be aboard a Voyage 440 Plus, would have been aoard Jeannius, but not available!
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Hey Doggie and Mike,
We were on her sister ship the Snowbird for the first half of our 12 day charter, beautiful boat. The second half of the charter was aboard the new Lagoon 420, which was not ready for charter. Love those twin deisels and the A/C, we needed blankets at night.
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Old 15-08-2007, 21:53   #8
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When we purchased our Privilege 39 in 1993, the factory was building three Privilege 39s and one Privilege 48 each month. They also were putting out a few 43 and 45s.

We were hull number 93, and we were near the end of the production run for the 39. For practical purposes, you can figure that there are nearly 100 of the 39s out there in various parts of the world. We saw them in French Polynesia, Thailand, USA, Med, and Caribbean.

We also saw many other Privilege cats of all sizes. About 70% of the 39s went into charter initially. There are still a few of them in charter here and there. Lost Our Marbles is in charter in Bequia and the Grenadines for example.

I don't know of an owners association for the Privilege cats, although there are plenty of them out there for such a group to exist. They will be around for a long time because they are nearly bullet proof cats. I have had my cat for 13 plus years, and no structural problems to date, and that's with a circumnavigation under our belt.
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One thing that was very noticable on the Privelege 435, a much stiffer structure.
Jeannius felt rock solid going to weather thru chop and waves, the R&C cats (M4000, M4200 and M4300) we have chartered felt very flexible in structure, creaked and moaned under load and even "shuddered" a few times, felt like everything was moviing!!
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Old 18-08-2007, 19:19   #10
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I have the 37 and it is great boat. My wife and I have cruised and lived on it for 2 years or so. I'd love to have one of the bigger privilege's, but that will have to wait a bit.
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Old 19-08-2007, 02:41   #11
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what sort of speeds do you get fully loaded for liveabord
we are about to start crusing this year so i would like to know what to expect.
apart from main and forsail what els do you have.
and what did you add on for liveabord.
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We cruise at an average of 6 knots fully loaded.

My guess is you're interested in the heavier stuff? We ended up with a good deal of stuff. Including:

12 foot dinghy with 10 hp 4 stroke engine
24 gallons of additional diesel fuel
12 gallons of additional gas
Portable 2.5kw generator
4 Alu 80 cu/ft scuba tanks
1 Steel 100 cu/ft scuba tank
Air X wind generator
1 165 watt Solar panel
Spectra watermaker
3 20 lb propane tanks
Full set of hand tools
100 gallon Water tank
24 gallon front water tank
Fortress 37 anchor + 30 foot chain 3/8
Manson supreme 35lb anchor + 275 foot 3/8 chain
Bruce 35 lb anchor
8 cu/ft Freezer
2.5 oz cruising spinnacher
Boarding plank
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Old 20-08-2007, 00:30   #13
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We cruise at an average of 6 knots fully loaded.

My guess is you're interested in the heavier stuff? We ended up with a good deal of stuff. Including:

12 foot dinghy with 10 hp 4 stroke engine
24 gallons of additional diesel fuel
12 gallons of additional gas
Portable 2.5kw generator
4 Alu 80 cu/ft scuba tanks
1 Steel 100 cu/ft scuba tank
Air X wind generator
1 165 watt Solar panel
Spectra watermaker
3 20 lb propane tanks
Full set of hand tools
100 gallon Water tank
24 gallon front water tank
Fortress 37 anchor + 30 foot chain 3/8
Manson supreme 35lb anchor + 275 foot 3/8 chain
Bruce 35 lb anchor
8 cu/ft Freezer
2.5 oz cruising spinnacher
Boarding plank
we have mutch the same 2 x 80lt diesel extra2 x 100lt flexi water tanks extra (400lt standerd)3kva diesel generator2x victron 2.5kva inverter charger750ah house battrieswashing machinemicrowave2x dive tanks plus dive gear1x 3m rib +6hp outboard200lt frezer engin driven60watt solar pannelforgen 1000 wind generatorcrusing chute on a rolegenspiniker with snuffer.1x light weight fortress 10m chain1x plough 30m chain+40m rope1x delta 30m chain+40m ropesewing machinefull set of tools+arc welderdesk top computer.uncle tom cobbley and all!!best we have had so far 12.7knt in 25knts wind (down wind surfing) but would agree with 6knts as an average.we pasage plan on 5knts
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Old 20-08-2007, 00:35   #14
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we have mutch the same
2 x 80lt diesel extra
2 x 100lt flexi water tanks extra (400lt standerd)
3kva diesel generator
2x victron 2.5kva inverter charger
750ah house battries
washing machine
microwave
2x dive tanks plus dive gear
1x 3m rib +6hp outboard
200lt frezer engin driven
60watt solar pannel
forgen 1000 wind generator
crusing chute on a rolegen
spiniker with snuffer
.1x light weight fortress 10m chain
1x plough 30m chain+40m rope
1x delta 30m chain+40m rope
sewing machine
full set of tools+arc welder
desk top computer.
uncle tom cobbley and all!!
best we have had so far 12.7knt in 25knts wind (down wind surfing) but would agree with 6knts as an average.we pasage plan on 5knts
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Our Privilege 39 catamaran became progressively heavier during our eleven year circumnavigation. In spite of the weight, we found that we sailed the same distance each day. We averaged 150 to 180 miles a day using conservative amounts of sail. If we wanted to push the boat hard around the clock with two people on watch flying a spinnaker in the trade winds, we could have done 200+ miles a day. But it was never worth the effort or risk to us.

Offshore world cruising is a marathon and making it into a sprint was too much work and involved too much risk for a family sailing around the world. We could sail downwind at six or seven knots without any white knuckles, without getting thrown about, without any worries, with the autopilot doing all the work and with the crew checking around the horizon every ten minutes.

The thing that determined our miles sailed and speed sailed each day, was not the weight of our catamaran. The speed was there if we needed it, but we were kind to our boat and crew, and we arrived safely at our destination without any worries. If we had pushed harder, we might have arrived a day or two earlier, but we would have enjoyed the trip less.

For us it was all about having an enjoyable sail. Everything that we had on our boat made for a more enjoyable and safer voyage.
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