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Old 03-12-2011, 07:14   #61
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True... if I wanted to triple costs, increase windage and lose working deck space...
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i am building a wharram tiki 26 and therefore am totally unbiased,but the hull shape,the curves...well lets just say they make me go all romantic?
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She makes me think about building a woodie. Oops, there it is.
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Back in last century i was cruising on a Catana, a Crowther design, a good looking boat and we went onboard a new Lagoon 41 (i think) ugleeee, however upon stepping into the saloon my mind was changed, those vertical windows that make them so ugly on the outside are magnificent, actually the whole layout was great. I could live with the homey outside look for that great interior which is where you spend your time. On the other hand a lot of folk think the Scionning designs with all the big radius everywhere are attractive, to me they look like they were sculpted out of butter and then the sun came out. I very much like the look of the Gunboats, they are quite boxy looking with the superstructure looking like they are built out of sheetgoods with nice defined edges, very simple and clean looking. jmho
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i am building a wharram tiki 26 and therefore am totally unbiased,but the hull shape,the curves...well lets just say they make me go all romantic?
Loved my Tiki 26.... Tiki Motu... fast and fun... took me to France a few times...

Jedi... Thats what I call a great Figurehead... true Wharram...
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what other cats come with naked girls hey? although i think mine was lost in the post with the plans,i will just keep sanding for now methinks...
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This isn't going to work for me. If it floats it looks good to me. It has more than one hull it looks even better to me. If it is covered in solar panels it looks like the future to me.

I would love to have a 35' version of that boat with sails...
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I would love to have a 35' version of that boat with sails...
LMAO The decks would be slippery!
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True... if I wanted to triple costs
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Same size boat built from same materials will pretty much cost the same regardless of design
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Same size boat built from same materials will pretty much cost the same regardless of design
Except there not even close to the same price. In your first comment on this you said put it towards the cost of Arber. While that is nebulous enough to be true; your current claim has nothing to do with that, whether true or not. They aren't made from the same materials. You can buy a Wharram for a tenth of what that Arber is being sold for! Further if they aren't the same design they aren't necessarily going to use the same amount of the materials.
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Except there not even close to the same price. In your first comment on this you said put it towards the cost of Arber. While that is nebulous enough to be true; your current claim has nothing to do with that, whether true or not. They aren't made from the same materials. You can buy a Wharram for a tenth of what that Arber is being sold for! Further if they aren't the same design they aren't necessarily going to use the same amount of the materials.
There's a wee difference between the price of correctly laminated Klegecell and Dynel Epoxy saturated ply. Apples with apples yes i agree totally. Wharrams design is simple cheap and paid for over and over whilst limited build boats have a high design cost component to recover....
Labour is not far off but materials NO.....
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They aren't made from the same materials.
Yes they are, the wharram and the Arber are both made from ply, epoxy coated and glass skinned

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You can buy a Wharram for a tenth of what that Arber is being sold for
Proving my point that if you were building, from the same materials, the arber or similar gives a better return on capital than the wharram
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Further if they aren't the same design they aren't necessarily going to use the same amount of the materials.
Not exactly to the sqm or litre of resin, but close enough, especially if you put a cabin on the wharram
The wharram pictured looks longer than 38 so I imagine the extra hull length would probably get close to the material used in a cabin
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There's a wee difference between the price of correctly laminated Klegecell and Dynel Epoxy saturated ply.
Look at the arber again
It is plywood, same as the wharram.
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Look at the arber again
It is plywood, same as the wharram.
Sorry u miss the point what i said was theres a difference if materials are different and theres a difference in design cost comparing wharram with arber, one design has had countless built to it so that lessens the drawing/design cost?
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