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Old 02-12-2011, 14:49   #16
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'Beauty is in the eye of the beholder' however 'Form follows Function'

And remember VOICES carry so well over calm water so watch what you say as you putt by in your dinghy......
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Schionning have gone for this bow design, i don't see the advantages? Aesthetically i don't go for it either.
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Here's one. I file this under what were they thinking.
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Here's one. I file this under what were they thinking.
WOW!!!! With you on that one....
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Here's one. I file this under what were they thinking.
That it has plenty of shade for in the tropics
That it has plenty of cross ventilation for in a hot, windless environment
That it has good visibility for reef strewn areas
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That it has plenty of shade for in the tropics
That it has plenty of cross ventilation for in a hot, windless environment
That it has good visibility for reef strewn areas
Would also make a good day charter boat - and probably is.
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Would also make a good day charter boat - and probably is.
Indeed, style and cosmetic appearance does not a successful boat make.
Form follows function.
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Let the cat fight begin.
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Schionning have gone for this bow design, i don't see the advantages? Aesthetically i don't go for it either.

I kinda like it

Bow instantly reminded me of one of these (popular in early 20th Century - with Battleships).



The superstructure reminds me of a Lago.......
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Schionning have gone for this bow design, i don't see the advantages? Aesthetically i don't go for it either.
I see the advantages. What offers less resistance as it cuts through a wave, a baseball bat or a knife?
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Bow instantly reminded me of one of these (popular in early 20th Century - with Battleships).
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I see the advantages. What offers less resistance as it cuts through a wave, a baseball bat or a knife?
I was more thinking along the lines of the rake aft of the bow than the entry. Both designs can have a "base-ball" bat or fine entry. I think the rake back on battle ships was to lessen the risk of entanglement in lines strung across channels and for cracking frozen waterways etc.
The plumb bow on a Cat or Mono is annoying as speed increases the water rises up the stem to form spray, whilst a forward sloped entry tends to raise bouyancy as it immerses with no tendency of a rising body of water up the stem.
Herreshoff got it SO right.
An aft raked stem would be annoying docking in a pen as the very forward section would make contact a bit like a 'Bulbous Bow'.
Maybe thats the thinking it is a way of streamlining forward bouyancy without having a gas bottle shape forward??? INTERESTING!
Modern design is in a lot of ways simply history repeating itself sadly a lot of our Catamaran designs are based on French Curves from the designers drawer, Bahia's are an example the exterior looks great however the interior ironing board furniture shapes is an example of 'French Curve' overuse,,, only my opinion!
I've built many classic and modern designed cats and mono's in Fibreglass, Timber, Chined and Round-bilge Aluminium yet the boat we've chosen for our retirement is a Lagoon 44, not a pretty boat BUT very functional to our needs.
Form follows function.....SO TRUE.
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Indeed, style and cosmetic appearance does not a successful boat make.
Form follows function.
Well it's for sale for $255,000.
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I still think it's ugly. For that kind of money I'd get the Bahia or a dozen others.
I was thinkin about posting this steel tri but it's not really ugly except for the steel part and some yahoo made the rules that it had to be a cat. That guy's a jerk. BOB
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I've seen some pretty cats and some not so pretty ones. I though it would be fun for froum members to post their favs for each category. They don't have to be expensive or cheap just what you like or don't like and the boats don't have to be fantastic sailers or the opposite. For instance,
I've always liked the lines of the FP Bahia. It looks good from any angle.
I never liked the Edel 35 or any of the older Edels. The newer ones do look pretty cool. Edel pic is first as if you couldn't tell.

Pretty cat -- my cat, most of the time. Ugly cat, my cat after he had fallen overboard and was fished out!

Don't think that's what you meant ...
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