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09-08-2008, 13:03
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Amstelveen Netherlands
Boat: FastCat 445 Green Motion
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Originally Posted by freetime
Thanks,
What is a weight on a outremer 50-55 and how much weight do you think i can add for a arc race or simular?
Solid build, was news for me. Is it easier to repair that?
And if you buy a 10-15 years old one, i understand she will need some upgrade before a long trip.
Spartan is ok for me.
Do you know any blog or homepage with owners of outremer 50-55?
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12 tons is a normal weight for a 50 and ad a ton for the 55 ft version saloon is the same.
count on 2000 kilo for the usual equipment.
Some people I know bought one 4 years ago and they had to replace the engines , rudders stocks, all the windows , the sailing wardrobe , side stays and front stay and many other parts total added cost 120.000 euro but this was a fairly run out version. maybe you get lucky.
greetings
gideon
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09-08-2008, 14:10
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#18
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Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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You have to calculate with that kind of problem if you buy a older boat, but that sounds little more than ok.
And you say 2000 kilo is ok for this boat, without performance problem?
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09-08-2008, 23:33
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Amstelveen Netherlands
Boat: FastCat 445 Green Motion
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Yes I am sure with 2000 kilo on board including water and diesel and everything else needed you will be ok and get a good performance.
greetings
gideon
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10-08-2008, 06:58
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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And remember to prounounce Outremer: ooo - tra - mer
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10-08-2008, 14:00
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Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jzk
And remember to prounounce Outremer: ooo - tra - mer
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Thanks for that...
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20-08-2008, 14:06
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Originally Posted by TDO
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Thanks....Wow....Sad i donīt have the money right now. Do you think i can walk around everywhere in the boat with my 1,86m?
This was good and Gideon just around the corner as a surveyer
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14-09-2008, 03:07
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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Yes, headroom throughout the boat is at least 1.90m
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19-09-2008, 13:54
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cruiser
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Everett, Washington
Posts: 765
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Half true
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Originally Posted by sandy daugherty
Outremers are traditionally viewed as THE highest performance cruising machines to be had from a semi-production builder. Theres no magic to it; if you want fast you go light, period. Narrow hulls have the least form drag and the smallest wetted surface, but they don't have much reserve displacement for that extra pair of swim trunks. to carry more weight, the hulls have to displace more water, which adds more surface area and reduces the hull beam to length ratio, which requires more power to move it all, which means a bigger sail rig, which is heavier and requires greater strength to keep all that rig pointing skyward, which weighs more, ad infinitum. If you would rather go fast than eat anything heavier than rice krispies, this is the boat for you! Its the boat for me too!
Outremer produces very few boats each year, and seem to be closely held by their predominantly French market. Values are quite high, and the few surveyors who have looked at them seem to drool uncontrollably when discussing them.
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True about the wetted surface but not true about the hull to length ratio of the hulls.
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19-09-2008, 18:58
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Bethlehem, PA
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Just shipped a 4kw genny, with the muffler on a half pallet 175 us pounds.
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More than 6 decades of sailing...Avatar is first boat, 1966-ish.. Currently land lubbering. Two more years in the salt mines, then back on the water. On something older with a pair of big diesels.
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20-09-2008, 00:03
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Wenduine, Belgium
Boat: Hanse 371
Posts: 86
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Last year, Allures Yachting ( builder of fine French Aluminium yachts ) took control of Outremer. The plan of Xavier Desmarest ( president of Allures ) is to slowly modernize the cats and do some ( a lot I hope )work on the interior. For this purpose he hired in Franck Darnet ( interior designer who does interiors for lots of (super) yachts )
The first Outremer with the new interior will be the 45. It will be presented at the Paris Boat Show.
Outremer builds about 9 cats a year ( it takes between 8 and 14 months to build one )
Greetz,
Koen
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20-09-2008, 04:45
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Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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I saw a note in multihullmag about the new interior. For me it sounds very interesting, when spending soo much money on the boat you want little comfort and a modern design, if you donīt want that you can always buy a used boat.
I found somewhere that the 42 have a bigger saloon than the 45? Is that true...
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20-09-2008, 08:23
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Location: Kauai, Hawaii
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We looked hard at the Outremer 50 /55 prior to the purchase of our Aikane56. Great boats that sail well. We felt the payload issues to be managable and a worthwile tradeoff for the sailing ability of these fine vessels. the main issue we has was one of ergonomics. I am 6'1'' and 220 and was unable to sit upright at the salon table without hitting my head on the cabin windows.
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20-09-2008, 11:11
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Registered User
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Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Quote:
Originally Posted by drewke07
We looked hard at the Outremer 50 /55 prior to the purchase of our Aikane56. Great boats that sail well. We felt the payload issues to be managable and a worthwile tradeoff for the sailing ability of these fine vessels. the main issue we has was one of ergonomics. I am 6'1'' and 220 and was unable to sit upright at the salon table without hitting my head on the cabin windows.
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Do you have this setup with twin steeringwheels...Looks very good. How good did the Aikane 56 sail?
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