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Old 09-08-2008, 13:29   #16
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1995 Outremer 50 Standard Boat For Sale

Thanks for the link, i canīt buy before the end of this winter.
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Old 09-08-2008, 14:03   #17
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Thanks,

What is a weight on a outremer 50-55 and how much weight do you think i can add for a arc race or simular?
Solid build, was news for me. Is it easier to repair that?
And if you buy a 10-15 years old one, i understand she will need some upgrade before a long trip.

Spartan is ok for me.

Do you know any blog or homepage with owners of outremer 50-55?
12 tons is a normal weight for a 50 and ad a ton for the 55 ft version saloon is the same.
count on 2000 kilo for the usual equipment.
Some people I know bought one 4 years ago and they had to replace the engines , rudders stocks, all the windows , the sailing wardrobe , side stays and front stay and many other parts total added cost 120.000 euro but this was a fairly run out version. maybe you get lucky.

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Old 09-08-2008, 15:10   #18
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You have to calculate with that kind of problem if you buy a older boat, but that sounds little more than ok.
And you say 2000 kilo is ok for this boat, without performance problem?
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Yes I am sure with 2000 kilo on board including water and diesel and everything else needed you will be ok and get a good performance.
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Old 10-08-2008, 07:58   #20
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And remember to prounounce Outremer: ooo - tra - mer
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Old 10-08-2008, 15:00   #21
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And remember to prounounce Outremer: ooo - tra - mer
Thanks for that...
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Old 20-08-2008, 14:33   #22
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I just read your discussion. Did you notice there is now also another 50 standard for sale? euro 295K
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...currencyid=100
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I just read your discussion. Did you notice there is now also another 50 standard for sale? euro 295K
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...currencyid=100
Thanks....Wow....Sad i donīt have the money right now. Do you think i can walk around everywhere in the boat with my 1,86m?

This was good and Gideon just around the corner as a surveyer
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Yes, headroom throughout the boat is at least 1.90m
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Outremers are traditionally viewed as THE highest performance cruising machines to be had from a semi-production builder. Theres no magic to it; if you want fast you go light, period. Narrow hulls have the least form drag and the smallest wetted surface, but they don't have much reserve displacement for that extra pair of swim trunks. to carry more weight, the hulls have to displace more water, which adds more surface area and reduces the hull beam to length ratio, which requires more power to move it all, which means a bigger sail rig, which is heavier and requires greater strength to keep all that rig pointing skyward, which weighs more, ad infinitum. If you would rather go fast than eat anything heavier than rice krispies, this is the boat for you! Its the boat for me too!

Outremer produces very few boats each year, and seem to be closely held by their predominantly French market. Values are quite high, and the few surveyors who have looked at them seem to drool uncontrollably when discussing them.
True about the wetted surface but not true about the hull to length ratio of the hulls.
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But what is the weight of a generator?
Just shipped a 4kw genny, with the muffler on a half pallet 175 us pounds.
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Last year, Allures Yachting ( builder of fine French Aluminium yachts ) took control of Outremer. The plan of Xavier Desmarest ( president of Allures ) is to slowly modernize the cats and do some ( a lot I hope )work on the interior. For this purpose he hired in Franck Darnet ( interior designer who does interiors for lots of (super) yachts )
The first Outremer with the new interior will be the 45. It will be presented at the Paris Boat Show.
Outremer builds about 9 cats a year ( it takes between 8 and 14 months to build one )

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I saw a note in multihullmag about the new interior. For me it sounds very interesting, when spending soo much money on the boat you want little comfort and a modern design, if you donīt want that you can always buy a used boat.

I found somewhere that the 42 have a bigger saloon than the 45? Is that true...
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We looked hard at the Outremer 50 /55 prior to the purchase of our Aikane56. Great boats that sail well. We felt the payload issues to be managable and a worthwile tradeoff for the sailing ability of these fine vessels. the main issue we has was one of ergonomics. I am 6'1'' and 220 and was unable to sit upright at the salon table without hitting my head on the cabin windows.
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We looked hard at the Outremer 50 /55 prior to the purchase of our Aikane56. Great boats that sail well. We felt the payload issues to be managable and a worthwile tradeoff for the sailing ability of these fine vessels. the main issue we has was one of ergonomics. I am 6'1'' and 220 and was unable to sit upright at the salon table without hitting my head on the cabin windows.
Do you have this setup with twin steeringwheels...Looks very good. How good did the Aikane 56 sail?
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