Originally Posted by clausont
I have been looking for information on the older Horstman and Brown Searunner
trimarans. I don't seem to find alot of information on the strength of them, particularly the Horstmans.
Does anyone have experience with how seaworthy
these tri's are? Would they likely be good for some coastal cruising as far as durability?
Also, what are their weak points? If I were looking at buying
one, what would I particularly want to watch for?
I have seen some of these sell for what would seem at first glance to be a reasonable price
- but in the long run, would it have really been a good price
Hmmm.... Alot to think about.
Hi I had a 45 and some years later a cleverly re designed 35 footer.
Spent 2 years chartering 45 footer around Auckland
harbour new Zealand
A tough and sometimes dangerous play ground, where many of the best sailors going round learnt there stuff.
I would hop in that 45 and go round cape horn any time.(loves going down hill, as I do in a horstman also lol)
I think there beautiful very strong very forgiving and a grate compromise.
As is every boat.
if you have not been inside one you would not believe how big. I had a big open plan one with beds on top in between hulls. when the curtains were pulled standing at the steps as you go into lounge/galley you could see an area like a tennis court across to each amah and the view to bow . plus the boat had 6 foot 6 head
room, the side windows in the amah were 12 feet away on either side BIG!
True you could not walk across but the vision did it.
The 36 was amazing, also go about under main and drift along in the slightest breeze.
Got caught on a bar with the 45 and watched it bounce and slam until re floated would not wish listening to that on any one and no damage to speak of.
Took some seas on that you would not meet in an ocean generally ugly gale with cross seas 50 Knot
Got caught coming out of some harbour's with sea jumping up out of nowhere and it felt like the boat was standing on end, which it very nearly was; and I would have to say the more we put it through the more you came to trust and love it.
I was 23 at the time so you can imagine (a genuine half wit) was not sitting around. We used to cover some miles.
We would pull out with 50 nots and take of to a harbour 30 miles away with lots of sail up boom bending, going 20 odd knots and loving it.
I once had a crew of admiral cuppers on board Swedish went out for ten days. well after leaving a boozy lunch at the pup and had my aft hung spare rudder
on not a deep bite on it.
put up the main, and we got over powered, the result was the same as a hand brake slide.
End result ended lying abeam to 8 foot side on swell.
I knew that boat had a magic about it with swell coming abeam it just didn't move could never figure that one out. steady as a rock.
so we straightened up again with the wind
over powering us again with resulting hand brake slide and big rooster tail thrown up from the aft hung rudder
. must have repeated presses 5 to ten times. Irresponsible yes! under the influence yes ! crazy yes! Confident that I understood what the boat was doing and it could handle absolutely.
and well must have looked good from the shore.
day we used to take a big number out, for the action, usually to be fired upon, from the maxis with there water
balloon cannons, with the record
being 51 people, full cloth up and not a worry in the world flying along at ten knots.
I would and did take it out, many times to its moorings in 50 Knots of wind
on my own or across the harbour 50 horsepower motor
(motored beautifully) on my own and pick up the Moring.
The worst part was rowing in afterwards.
I also used to enjoy sailing onto the mooring
, going in and out and around all thee other moored boats and up to the mooring
it occurs to me now that that was only possible because of the confidence that you get from knowing your boat, and also the confidence you have in its behaviour.
sailing to wind ward was often a better option but was more than fine of the wind and down wind with a small mast
good sized rigging
just let it all hang out and hay your there in no time. haha
The boat (Antares) was very well known in Auckland
at the time. with many big lies and stories told of what used go on that boat, much to my amusement, I always used to wonder where I was when all these things were going on lol
I have my plan on a large harry proa for next boat, many fine traits and appealing features. however would I buy another big horstman if the price and opportunity presented it self again? YOU BET""""
PS mind you I worked out the combined underwater area to paint
and it is like painting thee outside of a small house.