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Old 04-06-2016, 18:26   #46
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Re: Oceangoing for under $1000

Already been done. Aside from the engineering challenges you may know that beach cats have already crossed oceans. Essential to know how to right them in case of capsize. Beach cats can be had for $1000. Not necessarily best way to travel. Best wishes
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OP never came back.
Perhaps a troll trying to stir up reactions like trolls do.
No sh*t Sherlock!

It was one of the more blatant SA troll incursions we have seen for quite some time.
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A friend of mine asked me if it would be possible to acquire a boat that could reasonably safely sail across the Pacific (from California to Hawaii, or to the Philippines) for under 1000 dollars. I'm sure there is the occasional amazing deal on such a boat, but that seems too luck based.

My idea is to get an old canoe for cheap (or free), and then build on decking and build flotation into it, so it is reasonably safe from being swamped, and even if it is swamped it would ride high. Then you could build on two outriggers (for relatively little it seems to me, not sure what to use for the crossbeams off the top of my head), add in a leeboard or build in a daggerboard if you want to be fancy. Cut down a small tree for a mast (build the mast step when you add the decking), and find a cheap used sail or just use a tarp sail (and bring extra tarp).

The more I thought about this the more it seems like this could actually work. You'd have good stability with the outriggers, and the canoe would give you decent storage capacity and an easy base to work off of.

Let me know what you guys think, why this is crazy, is there a better way, etc.
Yep, that should work. Don't let the negative comments discourage you.
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I paid $2,000 for my Bristol 27.
If I had prior monohull experience I could have had it ready for around $3,000 - $4,000 to cruise. I have $8,500 in it due to trying another old diesel that failed, new outboard, new mainsail, (2) inverters

Replacing the rigging, inspecting or replacing the chain plates, drogue, plus a wind vane autopilot would be nice extras
Forget the engine; you won't need it anyway. For rigging I use dyneema, it's great, but cost me $250 replace all the stays, so wire is a cheaper option

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Is it anything short of suicide? Not very.

$1,000 per boat foot length is closer to reality not per boat.
My boat cost $1000 and I've crossed 3 oceans. I've been from california to Philippines and about 30 other countries.
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BTW If you want to keep rescue costs low, simply ban EPIRBs and liferafts. The sea will take care of the rest.

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How are you going to ban liferafts?

Why not just ignore epirb requests and not rescue anyone if costs are a problem?
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. Hi guys, thanks for all the responses, even all the naysayers saying I'm just a troll. I'd like to clarify a couple things, I'm not just some moron who read a couple adventure books and came up with some silly idea, I've actually sailed all my life, have covered tens of thousands of miles, and I have considerable experience working on trimarans.
Wow, did not realize you had all that experience sailing and working on multi hulls.
Try an introduction next time, your first post sounded like a dreamer on drugs, wrongly so of course, now that you mentioned your background.
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It was one of the more blatant SA troll incursions we have seen for quite some time.
Nah, he said he is not a moron, he has sailed all his life, tens of thousands of miles, then some.
Now he wants to cross the Pacific Ocean in a canoe.
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Nah, he said he is not a moron, he has sailed all his life, tens of thousands of miles, then some.
Now he wants to cross the Pacific Ocean in a canoe.
If he ain't ready I don't know who is. Toss some oats and a few cans of water in the bottom of that rubber dink and head out. Stick a wet finger in the air for direction.
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Kayak would be faster than a canoe....
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Could always build a big hamster ball and walk...
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Re: Oceangoing for under $1000

In Santa Barbara there was a little Piver for years that I used to marvel at and it turned out it belonged to Victor Shane, you might check out this site about half way down the page for a shot of it as an FYI. Also there is an old but kind of famous book (to me anyway) by a man named John S. Lechter, Jr. named "Self Steering for Sailing Craft" and on the cover you'll see the boat he sailed to Hawaii, and BACK! I doubt it would cost much more than $1000. Here is the Amazon link:
http://www.amazon.com/Self-Steering-...dp_o_pC_nS_ttl
If you can tackle the issues of exposure and water you could do it I guess. It's certainly a good weight loss strategy. It's all downhill to Hawaii but I think it qualifies as a stunt so have a sailboat poke along with you for support.

Check out post #248 in "plastic classics." That would be a boat you could do it in for less than a $1000!
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24.99 at target.
Excellent! Have been laughing non-stop since I saw your post.

Ahhh... humor. It's a wonderful thing!

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Excellent! Have been laughing non-stop since I saw your post.

Ahhh... humor. It's a wonderful thing!

I wonder how well it points into the wind?
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Re: Oceangoing for under $1000

I just KNOW I'm gonna catch heck for this...

Ever hear/read about Rimas aboard Pier Pressure? Bought his boat for $500. Washington to Hawaii to San Francisco to Amerika Samoa. He lived. How, I don't understand but still.....

His vessel is tied up in Pago Pago. Guy here named Jerry bought it for $700 bucks - more or less to give Rimas some pocket money to get off the island.

Disclaimer: I'm NOT advocating this sort of stuff, right mate! Just saying folk do things and some of them live.

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The ancient polynesians did this using outrigger canoes. And they didn't have GPS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polynesian_navigation

Early Polynesians Sailed Thousands of Miles for Trade

Wayfinders : Polynesian History and Origin

However, you have to take some other things into account. You can assume they were expert sailors on these canoes, and they were willing to accept the high failure rate.
They didn't use outriggers for ocean crossing. Outrigger canoes were mostly for local work. They used voyaging catamarans which were much larger and more substantial.

Also, there are no records of what percentage actually safely arrived.
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