NZ trimaran hit's whale. WHALE WINS.

cat man do · 10-01-2007, 00:34

yotphix · 10-01-2007, 01:05

There it is! Definitive proof of the superiority of Monhulls as ocean going craft. Since only one hull was damaged, it follows that a mono would have missed the whale all together! Monos have a 50% lesser chance of being damaged in whale/boat collisions! (Or I suppose the only hull would have been damaged and the poor fellow would have waited 5 hours in a life raft.)

josef · 10-01-2007, 02:13

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Originally Posted by yotphix

There it is! Definitive proof of the superiority of Monhulls as ocean going craft. Since only one hull was damaged, it follows that a mono would have missed the whale all together! Monos have a 50% lesser chance of being damaged in whale/boat collisions! (Or I suppose the only hull would have been damaged and the poor fellow would have waited 5 hours in a life raft.)

Prefer to take my chances remaining on a damaged cat than a liferaft.

Sunspot Baby · 10-01-2007, 07:00

"But to say they feel remorse or sorrow or anger? It's one of the things that separates humans from animals," he said.

The above is from the article. I don't know about remorse, but I have damn sure been around angry animals. I have seen animals that were certainly sorrowful or grieving. Extrapolating to a whale it seems likely to me they could feel sorrow or remorse. Whether we are capable of sensing that is another question. I'm going with the feelings of the guy on the scene at the time.

Cuttlefish and octopi demonstrate considerable emotion. Professor Barker is spending too much time with tube worms and sea cucumbers and not enough with gastropods or marine mammals.

George

David_Old_Jersey · 10-01-2007, 08:17

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Originally Posted by yotphix

Monos have a 50% lesser chance of being damaged in whale/boat collisions!

In this case a 66% greater chance of having missed the whale.

The whale was probably waiting for lunch.

The reason why Commercial Whalers do not use multihulls is cos' they are easy to sink by whales. and big sharks. and giant squid. and stuff.

Scientific fact that.

bru · 10-01-2007, 09:47

What interests me is that this is yet another example of a yacht being abandoned which hasn't actually sunk.

Is it that we just don't hear about the times when a yacht is damaged and the crew deal with the problem and make it back to port?

Or maybe I'm being naive in thinking that I'd do everything I could to save the boat and only abandon ship when all hope of keeping it afloat was gone.

In this particular case maybe the hull was damaged beyond any hope of salvation but when I read about boats being abandoned because of a damaged rudder when there's no danger of the boat sinking I must admit to being puzzled!

**Steve Rust** · 10-01-2007, 12:26

So that's the reason commercial whalers don't use multihulls? Cause they will get sunk by giant squid! Thank god for scientific fact. The planet is flat and the sun revolves around the Earth.

cat man do · 10-01-2007, 15:20

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Originally Posted by David_Old_Jersey

The reason why Commercial Whalers do not use multihulls is cos' they are easy to sink by whales. and big sharks. and giant squid. and stuff.

Scientific fact that.

Come on mate , it's not just Multi's that get sunk by the giant squid.

I saw "Pirates of the Carribean II " and even those big 'ol pirate ships were being trashed by "The Kraken"

Dave

bru · 10-01-2007, 15:22

Don't spoilt it, I haven't seen Pirates II yet!

otgadventures · 15-01-2007, 20:05

There it is! Definitive proof of the superiority of Monhulls as ocean going craft. Since only one hull was damaged, it follows that a mono would have missed the whale all together! Monos have a 50% lesser chance of being damaged in whale/boat collisions! (Or I suppose the only hull would have been damaged and the poor fellow would have waited 5 hours in a life raft.)

Hmmm, % risk of hitting things.. reminds me of the pilot who SWORE by single engine airplanes, because with a twin engine airplane, "there was twice as much chance of having an engine failure." Forget about flying in a Ford Tri-motor, you must be guaranteed to have one quit!

Let's face it, a whale will usually win in boats less than 100' long and 50 Tons weight, doncha think?

44'cruisingcat · 15-01-2007, 20:26

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Originally Posted by otgadventures

There it is! Definitive proof of the superiority of Monhulls as ocean going craft. Since only one hull was damaged, it follows that a mono would have missed the whale all together! Monos have a 50% lesser chance of being damaged in whale/boat collisions! (Or I suppose the only hull would have been damaged and the poor fellow would have waited 5 hours in a life raft.)

Hmmm, % risk of hitting things.. reminds me of the pilot who SWORE by single engine airplanes, because with a twin engine airplane, "there was twice as much chance of having an engine failure." Forget about flying in a Ford Tri-motor, you must be guaranteed to have one quit!

So did this guy ride a unicycle? He really should have had one arm and one leg amputated also - half the chance of injuring one.....

bru · 16-01-2007, 03:34

Look at this another way ... catamarans should be banned 'cos they pose double the risk to whales!

And as for trimarans!

Please note: this post is entirely tongue in cheek!

mikereed100 · 17-01-2007, 14:01

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"But to say they feel remorse or sorrow or anger? It's one of the things that separates humans from animals," he said

According to my research the only thing that separates humans from animals is that humans will drink when they are not thirsty. I cheerfully celebrate my humanity on a regular basis.

Mike

Factor · 18-01-2007, 02:35

Interesting to note that in the local paper (Brisbane Australia) the hull of an upturned power cat was found floating in the sea off moolloolaba. The report said "It is thought that this is not the NZ boat that was hit by a whale recently",

No sh!T sherlock - one was a sailing tri and the other was a power cat - gotta love journalists commitment to the detail.

mikereed100 · 18-01-2007, 17:21

Factor,

I spent 11 years as a paramedic and as such was eyewitness to a lot of incidents that found their way into the news. Never, in 11 years did the print or TV media get the details right in any incident I was involved in. Not once. Makes you wonder how much, if any, of what we see, hear and read in the media can be taken at face value.

Mike

10-01-2007, 00:34	#1
cat man do Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Brisbane Australia [until the boats in the piss] Boat: 50ft powercat, light,long and low powered Posts: 1,791 Images: 35	NZ trimaran hit's whale. WHALE WINS. Whale that wrecked boat 'seemed sorry' __________________ "Money can't buy you happiness but it can buy you a yacht large enough to pull up right alongside it"...............David Lee Roth http://www.thecoastalpassage.com/

10-01-2007, 07:00	#4
Sunspot Baby Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: New Bern, NC Boat: Prout Manta 38' Catamaran - Sunspot Baby Posts: 1,117 Images: 14	"But to say they feel remorse or sorrow or anger? It's one of the things that separates humans from animals," he said. The above is from the article. I don't know about remorse, but I have damn sure been around angry animals. I have seen animals that were certainly sorrowful or grieving. Extrapolating to a whale it seems likely to me they could feel sorrow or remorse. Whether we are capable of sensing that is another question. I'm going with the feelings of the guy on the scene at the time. Cuttlefish and octopi demonstrate considerable emotion. Professor Barker is spending too much time with tube worms and sea cucumbers and not enough with gastropods or marine mammals. George __________________ She took my address and my name Put my credit to shame Sunspot Baby, sure had a real good time Bob Seger

10-01-2007, 09:47	#6
bru Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: nr. Kettering, England Posts: 73	What interests me is that this is yet another example of a yacht being abandoned which hasn't actually sunk. Is it that we just don't hear about the times when a yacht is damaged and the crew deal with the problem and make it back to port? Or maybe I'm being naive in thinking that I'd do everything I could to save the boat and only abandon ship when all hope of keeping it afloat was gone. In this particular case maybe the hull was damaged beyond any hope of salvation but when I read about boats being abandoned because of a damaged rudder when there's no danger of the boat sinking I must admit to being puzzled! __________________ Regards Bru

10-01-2007, 15:22	#9
bru Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: nr. Kettering, England Posts: 73	Don't spoilt it, I haven't seen Pirates II yet! __________________ Regards Bru

15-01-2007, 20:05	#10
otgadventures Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Colorado Boat: Gemini 105 "OFF THE GRID" Posts: 61 Images: 22	There it is! Definitive proof of the superiority of Monhulls as ocean going craft. Since only one hull was damaged, it follows that a mono would have missed the whale all together! Monos have a 50% lesser chance of being damaged in whale/boat collisions! (Or I suppose the only hull would have been damaged and the poor fellow would have waited 5 hours in a life raft.) Hmmm, % risk of hitting things.. reminds me of the pilot who SWORE by single engine airplanes, because with a twin engine airplane, "there was twice as much chance of having an engine failure." Forget about flying in a Ford Tri-motor, you must be guaranteed to have one quit! Let's face it, a whale will usually win in boats less than 100' long and 50 Tons weight, doncha think? __________________ Travel With Us! Take calculated risks. That is quite different from being rash.George S. Patton (1885 - 1945) otg is "off the grid"

10-01-2007, 01:05	#2
yotphix Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 109	There it is! Definitive proof of the superiority of Monhulls as ocean going craft. Since only one hull was damaged, it follows that a mono would have missed the whale all together! Monos have a 50% lesser chance of being damaged in whale/boat collisions! (Or I suppose the only hull would have been damaged and the poor fellow would have waited 5 hours in a life raft.)

10-01-2007, 12:26	#7
Steve Rust Moderator Site Helper Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Minneapolis MN Boat: Searunner 40 Trimaran, Siruis 22 mono, 16 foot MFG daysailor Posts: 509 Images: 82	So that's the reason commercial whalers don't use multihulls? Cause they will get sunk by giant squid! Thank god for scientific fact. The planet is flat and the sun revolves around the Earth.

16-01-2007, 03:34	#12
bru Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: nr. Kettering, England Posts: 73	Look at this another way ... catamarans should be banned 'cos they pose double the risk to whales! And as for trimarans! Please note: this post is entirely tongue in cheek! __________________ Regards Bru

18-01-2007, 02:35	#14
Factor Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Brisbane Australia Boat: Seawind 1000xl "Dilligara" Posts: 294	Interesting to note that in the local paper (Brisbane Australia) the hull of an upturned power cat was found floating in the sea off moolloolaba. The report said "It is thought that this is not the NZ boat that was hit by a whale recently", No sh!T sherlock - one was a sailing tri and the other was a power cat - gotta love journalists commitment to the detail.

18-01-2007, 17:21	#15
mikereed100 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Santa Barbara Boat: Catalina 30, 45' Catamaran rebuild in Thailand Posts: 341 Images: 2	Factor, I spent 11 years as a paramedic and as such was eyewitness to a lot of incidents that found their way into the news. Never, in 11 years did the print or TV media get the details right in any incident I was involved in. Not once. Makes you wonder how much, if any, of what we see, hear and read in the media can be taken at face value. Mike

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