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Old 06-02-2010, 14:27   #31
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I agree - the americas cup should be in 200 foot schooners, thats the tradition.
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Old 06-02-2010, 14:43   #32
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schooners that arrive at the race venue on their own bottoms.
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Old 06-02-2010, 16:10   #33
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I hate to disagree, but the tradition is not 200 foot schooners- The tradition is the most technologically advanced purpose-built boats in the world. Also, the little America's Cup had no relation to the actual America's Cup. In fact, they have been legally forced to change the name of the event because of trademark rights.
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Old 06-02-2010, 16:55   #34
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I couldn't find anything about that

link please?

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I hate to disagree, but the tradition is not 200 foot schooners- The tradition is the most technologically advanced purpose-built boats in the world. Also, the little America's Cup had no relation to the actual America's Cup. In fact, they have been legally forced to change the name of the event because of trademark rights.
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Old 06-02-2010, 18:10   #35
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Can't find anything from the time it happened- sometimes its just easier to keep up with current events rather than scour the internet for history... Anyway, here's one link... It's now called the International C-Class Championship.

Team Invictus - C Class Catamaran for competing in the Little America's Cup
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Old 07-02-2010, 07:05   #36
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The Deed of Gift governs the America's Cup. There were so many court cases filed on behalf of this particular race that I assumed everyone knew that.

The Deed of Gift is a registered Trust document in the Supreme Court of the State of New York in Albany, New York.

The Deed of Gift mentions nothing about what kind of boat you have other than what's below this paragraph, as well as engines or lack of them. Obviously challengers must believe their boat is the fastest and it could not be the loser of a previous America's Cup match. The Cup has a 'tradition' of changing it's rules.

I quote from original the Deed of Gift which was donated through a Deed of Gift to the New York Yacht Club after a loss to the schooner America on July 8, 1857.:...." ....certificate of the name, rig and following dimensions of the challenging vessel, namely, length on load water-line; beam at load water-line and extreme beam; and draught of water; which dimensions shall not be exceeded;......"

A change was made to the rules in 1881, when the deed was rewritten to discourage inland-based yacht clubs from challenging the Cup. Boats were supposed to arrive at the start line on their own bottoms, as previously mentioned, but this rule was eliminated in 1944 to allow the use of 12 meter boats, which only have a 44' LWL,(and fit very nicely on a 60' 18 wheeler trailer) as opposed to the 100' LWL monster America's Cup "J" boats of the 1930s.

I'm paraphrasing what can be found here:
The actual original Deed of Gift is here:
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Old 07-02-2010, 07:29   #37
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lMHO Fullmoon nailed it with the Nascar vs F1 analogy. As in motorsports many will be lookng for the crash / failure not so much the finish. l think this is very exciting stuff! Too bad about the windspeed limts. They seem a bit low at 15kn. max
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I set my alarm, went to the streaming video link....downloaded the special player and...... nothing... a few words here and there and no video
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Might as well go back to sleep

Who in the world would spend all that money then choose the winter (same Lat as NYC) plus start a race at 10am ish................and wonder why there's no friggin' wind - oh, yeah they fought about that with Allinghi whimping out - going for early start time

Compared to all the excitement, crowds & racing competition in '07 - Louis Vuitton & AC32 - April thru June............warm, with wind, ah, those were the days
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4 knots isn't much, but I thought multis were supposed to be great in light air! I can even get my Tayana 37 moving along a knot or two in a breeze like that.
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tropic - just saying - the rules say they can't sail in anything over 15 knots and/or 3-foot chop. apparently, they also won't sail in single digit wind. That doesn't leave much of a window!
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According to the website a 50/50 chance in that area.
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No wind (2 kts at the start) and no constant direction.Thse boats will do 15kts in 2 kts of wind. I got up a 5AM Atlantic time after being up to midnight for the Superbowl. Wind never filled in. No race until Wednesday now.
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Postponed again. This time too much chop!
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