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Old 24-11-2007, 13:25   #16
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It is very helpful if you know how to sail before you decide to buy a larger boat. Take lessons, crew on a racing boat, spend some time in a dinghy, sail a bit "with your family" before you decide to spend big bucks.

It would be good to know more before deciding what type of boat you want.

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i everyone I hope it is o.k to post here as well since it is a cat Q

Been here for a wile but just got on also just started sailing school here in MDR, CA

I always knew I would love it but never knew how much, I just went on my first sail and fell in love with it(I am glad i followed my gut feeling about sailing).

Hopefully will reach my goal before too long(40-45 ft cat).

I was however Sl discouraged by my sailing instructor that said that(your opinions please) cats are just no good for our part of the world due to global winds they cant sail the same direction( i think he talked about up wind direction) or as effective as mono`s and therefore really limited .

I told him that i read somewhere that having dagger-boards helps with that

He said that dagger-boards have nothing to do with ability of direction only with depth issues.

Can someone shed some light for me please.?

Also it will be nice to have a southern ca chapter for cats owners and lovers.

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Old 24-11-2007, 16:16   #17
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Hey Breezman,
There has been some excellent advice about learning to sail here.
If you persue multihull sailing be prepared to hear a lot of crap from uninformed monohullers. Change instructors. Talk to Mike Leneman at
Multi Marine :: The Art and Science of Sailing
in MDR.
Ask him what he thinks of the advice you got at school.

The Daggerboard issue elicits a lot of arguement, most people defend what they have. My understanding is that generally speaking daggerboards will allow you to point higher than a centerboard (pivoting) or a fixed keel. You can retract it partially to tune to conditions reducing wetted area (drag) and retract it fully to sail downwind with the least drag. If the daggerboard is designed so it will be flush with the hull when retracted it will not drag an open slot through the water (more drag) like a centerboard. The downsides are that it is more expensive to build, it takes more gear to operate it, you have to remember to operate it, if you ground your boat on the daggerboard you can either break it or break the trunk that it resides in, and unless it is built really well it will rattle in its trunk, a board perpendicular to the waterline (fore and aft) is probably the most effecient at leeway control and catching kelp.
I have centerboards in both of my trimarans and would rather have daggerboards.

I would like to add another few bits of advice: before you buy anything, charter boats, beg rides, take classes, crew on every boat you can get a ride on, until you have a better idea what you are getting into. Don't assume that the charter fleets have the best designs for cruising full time. Don't let the moronohullers browbeat you out of multihulls if that is what you decide to do.

I have been sailing for 27 years and have owned and sailed:
30' Sparkman Stevens (mono)
44' Kelly Peterson (mono)
58' Alden Ketch (mono)
27' Nichole Trimaran
32' Cross R series Trimaran
and now own:
34' Kantola Tri
44' Marples Tri

I wish I had learned about multihulls before wasting so much time and money on monohulls.


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Old 25-11-2007, 00:35   #18
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pardon the typo

That was intended to be pursue
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Thank you very much mark and roblanford for the great info and words.

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