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Old 06-03-2014, 23:44   #1
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Some interesting features.
- Can be shipped via container with final assembly on site.
- Minimalist design to keep weight down for the performance minded, decent load carrying for those that want to load it up for cruising.

Just how fast will it really go?

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Old 07-03-2014, 09:03   #2
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Some interesting features.
- Can be shipped via container with final assembly on site.
- Minimalist design to keep weight down for the performance minded, decent load carrying for those that want to load it up for cruising.

Just how fast will it really go?
This has been done before. It's a flared hull with a knuckle. Fast when light but loaded for cruising the boat submerges the fine hulls and the waterline creeps up the flare past the knuckle.

Not so fast anymore.. However, it's a quality company and I'm certain this will be a quality product. It is a gutsy call though.
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Old 07-03-2014, 10:04   #3
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Re: New Design: Maine Cat 38

Tropic Cat, I agree - except that the 'knuckles' seem to be fairly high up the sides of the hulls and the flare is not excessive below that. I still anticipate she will be very quick unless significantly overloaded. If I were weekending, or doing coastal/inland cruises of only a week or two, I think she would be a fantastic option. She could also work on longer-term cruises for someone who is prepared to live spartanly.

I wonder about the asthetics once the stanchions/lifelines are installed (hard to make them attractive when they have to run up from the bow, over the coachouses and down again), but what the heck - that should hardly be a deal-killer for someone who wants performance over space, but with acceptable accomodation for the short-term.

Really, I view her as the 'sports car' of cats in that size range. You may have to pack light, but you will be rewarded with a very fun ride!

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I wonder about the asthetics once the stanchions/lifelines are installed (hard to make them attractive when they have to run up from the bow, over the coachouses and down again), but what the heck - that should hardly be a deal-killer for someone who wants performance over space, but with acceptable accomodation for the short-term.Brad
The MC41 has a similar design with lifelines and stanchions. It looks OK to me.
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Old 07-03-2014, 13:51   #5
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Love to set up a little race around the buoys in Annapolis say on October 14th for all cruising cats 35 to 45 feet LOA
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Is that THE Dick V of Maine Cats? Welcome to CF.
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Dick,
It looks very interesting. a few questions:
1) No mention of sails in the pricing. Included? If yes, details would be appreciated.
2) Are the rudders kick-up?
3) Can the boat handle a gentle grounding and dry out at low tide without damage?
4) Any option for a power windlass?
5) Planned design weight? (edit - found it)
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Re: New Design: Maine Cat 38

Yes DickV, welcome to CF. I don't think you would find many takers - if she is able to be kept to the design weights, she should absolutley fly! So do I take it that you expect to have hull#1 in the water by October?

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P.S. Love the design overall and I especially like the use of solid, opening windows on the front and sides of the bridgedeck. It should really make that area more comfortable in bad conditions. Do you have anything similar planned for the Maine Cat 41?
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Yes DickV, welcome to CF. I don't think you would find many takers - if she is able to be kept to the design weights, she should absolutley fly! So do I take it that you expect to have hull#1 in the water by October?
Do you really mean "don't think you would find many takers" ? curious why.

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P.S. Love the design overall and I especially like the use of solid, opening windows on the front and sides of the bridgedeck. It should really make that area more comfortable in bad conditions. Do you have anything similar planned for the Maine Cat 41?
Hard window option for the 41 was introduced last summer.

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Mark424 - I think he was referring to anyone taking on DickV in the October race. The 38 looks like it would clean everyone's clock. Dick - need me to show you how to race that thing?
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Really, I view her as the 'sports car' of cats in that size range.
They look like sports cars when they have no lifelines, no mast, no boom, no rigging, no tramps, no radar dome, no solar panels tacked on, no dinghy hanging off the back.
Add all that, and they look like...workboats?
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Re: New Design: Maine Cat 38

Jack -
There are lots of pictures of completed Maine Cat 41s around, you think they look like workboats?
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Thank you for the welcome to CF and being able to participate in your discussions. I am new to all this, so excuse me if I mess-up. The quick answers to the questions: Three different sail optional packages from test pilots to little old ladies. Rudders are dagger style in cassettes. Gently grounding not a problem. I lined up one of the Harken winches with the bow roller for the windlass. Save the expense and weight. Her draft is 19", should not need much rode to haul back aboard.

Plan is to have hull #1 at the Annapolis show in October. Don't burn me at the stack if I am late......you know boat builders?

Thanks Mark424 for the photo of our full enclosure on the MC 41. We used tempered glass windows from DSG. The MC 38 windows will be lighter and not include the entire perimeter.

Not sure the photo of our MC 33 (hopefully attached) looks like a workboat
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well, it doesn't look any more workboat than other sailing cats, but compare this photo to the red 38 in the first post, and you see what I mean.

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Re: New Design: Maine Cat 38

Mark424, dpdd was correct - I was suggesting that there would probably not be many takers for a race against this boat by owners of other comparably-sized cruising cats: most people don't like losing! And Nimble motors, I wasn't suggesting that she looks like a sports car - rather that her design/specifications make her the equivalent of a sports car. Like I said, you may have to pack light, but you should be rewarded with a very fun ride!

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