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Old 28-10-2013, 03:52   #1
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New cat made in china

http://farnova-yachts.com/product.as...=0&productid=0

Saw one in boat show. Much cheaper than lagoon. But quality ! Some details scares me.
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Old 28-10-2013, 04:02   #2
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Dunno about the builder, but the designer of the Freeflow is Nathan Stanton who has designed in his free flow range some of the more interesting and well thought out boats.
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Old 28-10-2013, 05:40   #3
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yes. The design is nice.
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Old 28-10-2013, 05:50   #4
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Very nice,how much?

Resale would be interesting after a few years.

Who built your cat? Some guy in China
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I wonder if they bog in bulkheads like some European manufacturers?
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what does 'bog in bulkheads' mean? Thickened epoxy fillets without tape?
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Near enough, and not necessarily epoxy
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Re: New cat made in china

" Farnova yachts also has his own in-house Machine Shop and Wood Working Shop operate by the most skilled team of engineers and craftsmen as if they can make your dream come true."
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I wonder if they bog in bulkheads like some European manufacturers?
Well there arnt really any other large players any where else really.

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Except So. Africa.

The US is now positioned at 3 or 4 with Gemini, Alpha and Gunboat.
Viet Nam is right there also.
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Re: New cat made in china

Just a slightly on-topic comment here.
My local auto dealer repaired my truck brake system...had a helluva trouble pinning down the cause. Replaced part after part...no change.
Decided to replace the replacement parts...& found the issue.
Bad new parts....from guess where?
Auto shop owner says it's very common now in his experience as so much is made by the Chinese these days....with so little quality oversight....and no legal come-back on the manufacturer. ( thinking dry-wall here)
Pretty damned scary when you cant even depend on new parts.
Good luck on that maiden voyage............!!!
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Just a slightly on-topic comment here.
My local auto dealer repaired my truck brake system...had a helluva trouble pinning down the cause. Replaced part after part...no change.
Decided to replace the replacement parts...& found the issue.
Bad new parts....from guess where?
Auto shop owner says it's very common now in his experience as so much is made by the Chinese these days....with so little quality oversight....and no legal come-back on the manufacturer. ( thinking dry-wall here)
Pretty damned scary when you cant even depend on new parts.
Good luck on that maiden voyage............!!!
Yeah, everything auto related should just be made by Germans !!!

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Yup, I miss my 911 Turbo.

Back on topic. There was a thread awhile back about Chinese yacht ownership. Basically there are just about no marinas and you really can't cruise and you can't anchor. One port required a pilot at $500 per trip coming and going in and out of port. Then you had to use a water taxi only (no dinghy) and that was a hundred or three extra. Check out Noonsite.

Yes i do want a Chinese made yacht and I want to pick it up at the factory.

NOT!!!!!
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I wonder if they bog in bulkheads like some European manufacturers?
My point was obviously a little obtuse. Before we slag off anything and everything Chinese, asian or not European or USA, just remember there are some pretty poor practices in Europe boat builders, like the aforementioned bogging of, but not glassing in, bulkheads.

And I am not suggesting China is the repository of all things wonderful, just that things manufactured there should be judged on their merits, not the street address.

Bogging = resin and micro balloons or silica or all sorts of other fillers, depending on the job, e.g. a surface fairing compound.
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And I am not suggesting China is the repository of all things wonderful, just that things manufactured there should be judged on their merits, not the street address.
I agree. Having just returned from China, I believe that they can manufacture (copy?) ANYTHING to ANY quality level.

Want cheap and nasty? No problem. Want good quality? Make sure that you pay for supervision at every step. Will cost more, but no problem. Not much different to Vietnam.

Can you tell the difference between "cheap and nasty" and "good quality"? Not so easy. The Chinese are experts at "polishing turds". Perhaps they copied the French? Brand reputation may help in this regard. The designer's brand has a reputation, in Australia at least, but has anyone heard of the manufacturer?

Does it contravene international patents? No problem in China, but if you try to sell the product anywhere else expect an expensive law suit.

Sail it home from China? LOL. That would definitely not be for the feint hearted!
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