NEW 47? ok, nice, but what's the diff' ??

[LeeV]

I'd rather debate the merits of the boat. What anybody wants on their boat is their business and their right. I spent lots if time in the Far East, some for the wrong reasons in far worse weather and conditions than most folks (I hope) will ever know, and yep, it was incredibly hot. But that's not the point; we have enjoyed a/c in the Washington D.C. area with 95 temps and 100% humidity but we often don't use it in the cars because our sinuses go berserk!

We chartered a cat w/o air in the BVI mid July, but got used to the heat, and have agreed that we dont want the expense or weight of a/c and a genny...BUT if a used Open 40 with those installed came along and we could afford it, I'd get it if there was no alternative.

Let's go back to boats!

[44'cruisingcat]

Originally Posted by beiland

Have you ever been, or lived in Singapore for some period of time??


Exactly !

So you're saying nobody ever has, or ever could have lived on a boat in Singapore without aircon?

[beiland]

Originally Posted by smj

Looks as if the temperatures and humidity in Singapore are pretty close to the Florida Keys, and there are plenty of live aboard's living in the Keys with no Ac.
I have nothing against someone running their generator and Ac at anchor, but if you do, please consider your neighbors as they may not want to listen to your noise or suck down your diesel fumes while they are enjoying paradise.

Singapore is 85 miles from the equator,...I don't think the Fl Keys are anywhere near that close There is a difference !
...agreed, back to boats

[smj]

Originally Posted by beiland

Singapore is 85 miles from the equator,...I don't think the Fl Keys are anywhere near that close There is a difference !
...agreed, back to boats

I looked up the temps. At the height of summer both the Keys and Singapore have about the same high temps, though the lows are higher in the Keys. Same humidity.


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[tp12]

None of you are really understanding the Need V Want component to 44c's statement.

I've no doubt he's experienced hot and humid before on his boat, FNQ etc, so no need to think he doesn't understand it.

[rajsach]

Originally Posted by tp12

None of you are really understanding the Need V Want component to 44c's statement.

I've no doubt he's experienced hot and humid before on his boat, FNQ etc, so no need to think he doesn't understand it.

What you don't understand is that some people's wants are other people's needs

Can we please get back to talking about the boat or is this now a thread about air-conditioning? If so I guess I'll unsubscribe

[tp12]

Originally Posted by rajsach

What you don't understand is that some people's wants are other people's needs

Can we please get back to talking about the boat or is this now a thread about air-conditioning? If so I guess I'll unsubscribe

No, that's incorrect. It's still a want.

And hey, that's ok. People are entitled to want what they want and put what they want on their boat. But calling it a need is incorrect.

There's plenty of information on the boat in this thread. If you feel you need to unsubscribe then go for it.

[44'cruisingcat]

Originally Posted by tp12

...... If you feel you need to unsubscribe then go for it.

Or even if it's just a want.....

[Nahbrown]

Originally Posted by 44'cruisingcat

Or even if it's just a want.....

Now that is funny

[tp12]

Originally Posted by 44'cruisingcat

Or even if it's just a want.....

[rajsach]

Originally Posted by 44'cruisingcat

Or even if it's just a want.....

HaHa ...that IS funny I'll give you that

[Steve_C]

I will NEED air conditioning, at least at night, if I WANT my wife to go with me.


I NEED my wife to go with me if I WANT to stay married!!!!!!


I NEED to stay married if I WANT to afford my sailing!!!!!

[beiland]

Originally Posted by befree

I'm interested as well but would like to see a four cabin layout similar to the Saba 50. I would also like to see a new layout on the Leopard 48 with a four cabin owners stateroom layout, maybe similar to a a Saba 50 with some lounging areas on top and an Island in the Galley. Some of the newer layouts on the newer boats are pretty impressive.

I've got to ask,...why all this need for 3 and 4 cabins, with subsequent heads, etc??

Are you all planning on charter work??

[beiland]

Originally Posted by owenrms

I think this new 47 ticks a lot of the boxes. We had looked at the Saba but did not like the fact there was no three cabin version.

So at least you were accepting of a lesser number of staterooms?

Love the hydraulic platform on the stern as well as the quasi flybridge for island sailing while still having the safer helm position for ocean crossing.

I like that platform as well. included something similar on several sailing/fishing cat concepts I was playing with.


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I have always been concerned with those very high off the water booms necessary for flybridge controls, so my flybridge on this design was to be somewhat similar to an older Lock Crowther design.

[John Holbrook]

I lived on a boat in Singapore for a few years. Out of say 15 live aboards at One15 Marine, Sentosa each one had aircon. Some used the aircon only at night and when it rained and the boat had to be closed up. Aircon also helps keep mildew away. To make living aboard in Singapore a viable option yes you need aircon. Sure the human body can adjust to lots of things but most of us chose not to torture ourselves. Ps the humidity in Singapore is much higher than the keys.

I don't want to derail this thread further I just want to add my first hand experience.