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Old 25-02-2015, 10:50   #1
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NEEL 65 sweet

This new boat looks awesome, and incorporates many of my ideas.
Key feature: the hulls contain only mechanical stuff, no living space.
A living space in a single floor.
Just get rid of the sails and cover the roof with solar and make it electric,
and I would buy it (if I won the lottery).

I just wanted to add another idea for the richy-rich to steal, which I mentioned in another thread. Make the tender house the fuel tanks and generator engine, so the main boat has NO FUEL, NO ENGINES, and can operate completely separately on only electric power. The tender then becomes a fast boat with a 'big' gasoline motor that can generates power when attached to the main boat, an in fact in my design, it can also propel the boat with the engine, when the generator is engaged to the prop/jet,
yes JET, so the tender can move the boat when beached in VERY shallow water.



NEW NEEL 65 | NEEL trimarans

NEEL 60 has become NEEL 65 to accommodate needs of the owner, accordingly layout has been improved:
- Direct access to the float from the saloon
- Dingy garage in the main hull transom (up to 13,5 ft / 4,20 meters)
- Island bed in main hull cabins
- Island bed facing the sea in the main deck suites cabins
- One double cabin per float with head and separate shower
- Layout alternatives from 3 to 8 cabins
- Storage for leisure facilities (canoeing, windsurfing stand-up paddle…) in the floats with direct access to the sea
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Old 25-02-2015, 15:41   #2
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Re: NEEL 65 sweet

I like your idea of moving the engine to the dinghy, but I think it's going to be pretty difficult to find a dinghy wi that big of a carrying capacity. Figure the engine is 1,300 lbs. 265 gallons of diesel is going to be another 1500lbs or so. There just aren't that many dinghies with that type of capacity. Particularly once you add the generator parts for it.

A large trimaran however may be one of the places I could see making the tradeoffs for diesel electric. Just so you could put the motors in the wings, and locate the generator anywhere you want. Thoug I would be more inclined to use a smaller diesel mover to the main hull, then add electric wing motors for in port maneuverability. Note I have given this no thought, but it is an interesting brain storm.

Otherwise it does look like an amazing yacht.
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Old 25-02-2015, 20:01   #3
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1300 lbs engine??? 265 gallons of diesel??

My 50hp engine weighs 100 lbs, generator/motor is another 100 lbs.
The boat runs on solar, not fossil fuel. I have 12 gallons of fuel for emergencies, another 100 lbs, maybe will bump it to 24 gallons.
Clearly the tender is a custom boat designed for attachment to the mothership, not any standard dinghy and can double as a lifeboat.

Yep, retractable electric 360 pods in the amas, that lift out when anchored so they don't foul and clear the bottom when beached.


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I like your idea of moving the engine to the dinghy, but I think it's going to be pretty difficult to find a dinghy wi that big of a carrying capacity. Figure the engine is 1,300 lbs. 265 gallons of diesel is going to be another 1500lbs or so. There just aren't that many dinghies with that type of capacity. Particularly once you add the generator parts for it.

A large trimaran however may be one of the places I could see making the tradeoffs for diesel electric. Just so you could put the motors in the wings, and locate the generator anywhere you want. Thoug I would be more inclined to use a smaller diesel mover to the main hull, then add electric wing motors for in port maneuverability. Note I have given this no thought, but it is an interesting brain storm.

Otherwise it does look like an amazing yacht.
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How about a jetski in the back of each ama?
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How about a jetski in the back of each ama?
I had to chuckle but then again it might be doable? Obviously by someone smarter than me.
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These floating condos just keep getting bigger. It must be a great challenge just finding a place to park it.

The complexity and interdependence between systems often leads to fragility. I cant fathom how the second owner will manage to keep this vessel in good condition.

So how many of these will they sell?

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How about a jetski in the back of each ama?
I had to chuckle but then again it might be doable? Obviously by someone smarter than me.




Actually, it was only partly said in jest. Some of the jetski's available now are incredibly cheap, for what you get. They're advertising Seadoo's for under $8k in Aus, with a 900cc 4 stroke engine, presumably around 100hp? (no power output in the specs sheet)


Compared to even a 4 stroke outboard motor, that's cheap. Compared to a dinghy + outboard.....
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I had to chuckle but then again it might be doable? Obviously by someone smarter than me.




Actually, it was only partly said in jest. Some of the jetski's available now are incredibly cheap, for what you get. They're advertising Seadoo's for under $8k in Aus, with a 900cc 4 stroke engine, presumably around 100hp? (no power output in the specs sheet)


Compared to even a 4 stroke outboard motor, that's cheap. Compared to a dinghy + outboard.....
You are right. It would be a good idea having jet drive. My point was I'm not smart enough to engineer holding them in for a seaway. Just using there jet drives may be an idea.
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There have been a few 'boats' designed to use a jetski for propulsion, google shuttlecraft, kinda of good idea, but never really caught on.
Jetskis themselves are very heavy, way too heavy, solid fiberglass hulls.
Google 'jet jon boat' to see how people convert light aluminum boats to jetski drives..real fast boats.
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How about a jetski in the back of each ama?
This is exactly my thought Apparently, there's not enough room, hulls should be widened to accept jetski. But I guess, it can be done
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