Neel 51 Trimaran Article in Yachtingworld

[Gary Mc]

This one is huge and has more room than most Tris, but I helped delivery a 45 foot Cat and then a 50 foot Tri, the Cat was way more livable!

The space in the two main hulls was awesome and the upper lounge/galley area between the hulls was really nice.

[Thalas]

Originally Posted by 2big2small

For me the major disadvantage of a tri compared to a cat is at anchor. A tri is always heeling somewhat on the one or other outer hull while a cat sits flat. This is why I personnaly would never consider one.

Ugh. I didn't even think about that. Even monos are flat-ish at anchor. Spending the whole day on tilt? Nope... More power to people who love these boats, but they're definitely not for me.

[Hobschel]

Originally Posted by Thalas

Ugh. I didn't even think about that. Even monos are flat-ish at anchor. Spending the whole day on tilt? Nope... More power to people who love these boats, but they're definitely not for me.

I think they made the amas the way that the boat stays flat at anchor... at least when there are no waves...

Did or does anyone intent to charter one? Would be nice to see some first hand experience...

My main comcern would be the heeling under sail... but i guess one would have to try it espacialy in less calm weather...

[2big2small]

Originally Posted by 2big2small

For me the major disadvantage of a tri compared to a cat is at anchor. A tri is always heeling somewhat on the one or other outer hull while a cat sits flat. This is why I personnaly would never consider one.

Well, looking at the video I can see they ballanced this one to sit rather flat, which only means more drag while sailing because all three hulls would likely be in the water (instead of only two) under the lower points of sail especially in light winds.

[rom]

Originally Posted by 2big2small

For me the major disadvantage of a tri compared to a cat is at anchor. A tri is always heeling somewhat on the one or other outer hull while a cat sits flat. This is why I personnaly would never consider one.

Worse than that, it goes from one leg to the other when motoring. Fine for a day sail, not so much for a full time cruiser. The best option I can think of is to put some weight on one side of your choice.

[boom23]

Hauling out a trimaran would be a major issue for a world cruiser...

[Hobschel]

Originally Posted by boom23

Hauling out a trimaran would be a major issue for a world cruiser...

I guess that is the same for big catamarns as well, like a Lagon 52 etc... Or is there anying on a tri that makes it more complicated?

[boom23]

Originally Posted by Hobschel

I guess that is the same for big catamarns as well, like a Lagon 52 etc... Or is there anying on a tri that makes it more complicated?

For a large cat, boat yards use a trailer under the bridge deck. I'm not sure what they would use for a tri... Also, considering that there aren't many tri's around, I don't think many boat yards plan for them.

Maybe someone knows more.

[sv Grateful]

Faster to weather? Hmmm, not so much. A few months ago south of Marie Galante, my FP Lavezzi 40 walked past a Neal 45 in an 18 - 20 KT breeze at 45 degree relative wind angle and 6-8' seas. It wasn't particularly comfortable on our cat, but it looked like the occupants of the tri looked like they were having the stuffing knocked out of them.

[Suijin]

Spent some time on a 45. It sat flat in the water at rest, no tipping back and forth.

It was fun to sail...pretty fast... but it was far from a convenient boat. I recall walking away from it thinking it was sort of a novelty item.

[boom23]

Two bridgedecks for the waves to slap... I'm cringing already.

[schoolboy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thkpioo0zfo&t=150s

This looks like a one-off trimaran, called the Sesame.
kinda like the Neel but with no dihedral,
with a bit of a Lagoon cat look to it.
The outhulls are used as walkways- the beds are elevated.
Seems very seaworthy without the teeter-totter of some tris.
What do you think??

My dream would be to mate this boat with a Chris White Hammerhead 54 (or maybe a Kantola tri), and enjoy the offspring!
Schoolboy

[jdazey]

The Hammerhead 54 would be fine all by itself


Our cat sails very well, but I have no doubt the Hammerhead sail far better. The cat has superior accommodations and fits the bill as liveaboard nicely, but in the next life I'll get a Hammerhead.


Not many tri sailors in this thread. OTOH not many tri sailors period. Nonetheless, for some only a tri will do.


Cheers,

[leftbrainstuff]

Originally Posted by Hobschel

I agrre on the heel, one would need to try if one likes it or not. It somewhere between a mono and a cat... Page 15 and following the mention a few advantages compared to some other well known cats...
Any thoughts about these statements?
https://www.google.ch/url?sa=t&sourc...Vs52sbCXMByGIj

Nice attempt by marketing folks to masquerade as engineers. In real world conditions both limits can be reached and the key characteristic is the total loss of righting moment.

[leftbrainstuff]

Originally Posted by Boatguy30

The only real advantage to the tri is they are more liveable in the event of capsize. However you have to maintain an airlock in the amas and I'm not sure the Neel is really designed around this parameter

Is that a key requirement for you?