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16-01-2016, 00:04
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Manhattan Beach, California
Boat: Catalina 42 MK1 1991
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Mooring your Catamaran in Southern California
So, I have a 42 ft monohull in Southern California. While sailing around, once in a while I see a catamaran, but my biggest question has always been where do these cats dock? Are they at a slip? Or the end-spots on a dock? Or are they always tied up to a mooring?
Is it really hard to find end-spots on docks? Thanks for any insights someone can give me. My wife was hinting to me about a catamaran, so I'm just curious.
Thanks.
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16-01-2016, 07:26
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Cat in New Zealand, trawler in Ventura
Boat: 46' custom cat "Rum Doxy", Roughwater 41"Abreojos"
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Re: Mooring your Catamaran in Southern California
Most are on end ties, a very few are on moorings or in slips. Having a cat in SoCal is fairly problematic. We have been on a waiting list in Ventura for over 10 years. In that time a slip became available once, but we were on the other side of the world and had to decline. Once a cat owner manages to find a place for the boat in SoCal they are very reluctant to give it up, sometimes at the expense of their cruising dreams. We have spent a lot of time on the hook off of Santa Barbara, but that is difficult when you have to be at work in the morning and face a mile long slog in the dinghy against the weather. Best option is to buy the cat and go sailing.
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16-01-2016, 09:36
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Manhattan Beach, California
Boat: Catalina 42 MK1 1991
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Re: Mooring your Catamaran in Southern California
That's what I figured. A couple years ago when we were in the market for a boat. We looked at catamarans. We were thinking of purchasing a cat, but then a friend of mine asked me where I was going to put it. So I went with a monohull where it had a slip already. It was a lot easier then to get into a boat than to keep on waiting for a spot.
Do you know anything about the Redondo Beach or Marina Del Rey to permanently moor a boat there?
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16-01-2016, 14:30
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Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Long Beach, CA
Boat: Tayana Vancouver 42
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Re: Mooring your Catamaran in Southern California
You might want to check Cabrillo Way Marina in San Pedro. New marina not yet full. Some end ties may still be available. (310) 514-4985
S/V B'Shert
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17-01-2016, 08:36
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Seattle, WA
Boat: Harbor 20, Seawind 1370 (2024)
Posts: 320
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Re: Mooring your Catamaran in Southern California
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Originally Posted by dkchen
Is it really hard to find end-spots on docks? Thanks for any insights someone can give me. My wife was hinting to me about a catamaran, so I'm just curious.
Thanks.
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Used to live in SoCal, was looking for a slip in the early 2000's, got on a bunch of waiting lists, then I talked to one of the charter outfits about putting it in their charter fleet, and with one call they found a slip. Have also heard from brokers down there they have "connections" and intimated for the right price many things were possible. Translation, you just calling and getting on a waiting list is for suckers. Make it a condition of the purchase and one of the brokers will find you a nice end tie. The dockmasters know who is coming and going, who they are able to move or negotiate a swap. They won't do that for john-q-public, but will for a broker or for other inducements.
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18-01-2016, 15:53
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Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Channel Islands, CA
Boat: Lagoon 400 S2
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Re: Mooring your Catamaran in Southern California
I have my 40' Lagoon parked in Channel Islands, and my broker definitely helped find the slip, though I don't think it was much special treatment other than doing the legwork for me and good timing, the marina was happy to fill the slot.
I am seeing many more catamarans appear in SoCal, and my broker (Naos Yachts, whom I recommend) has sold something like 6 Lagoon catamarans into this market in the last year alone.
Marina Del Rey is packed, of course, but I think there may be end ties in Ventura, Channel Islands, or San Pedro.
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18-01-2016, 17:17
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Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Up the mast, looking for clean wind.
Boat: Currently Shopping, & Heavily in LUST!
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Re: Mooring your Catamaran in Southern California
So basically it's;
- Who you know
- (And) Or, some $ "to open a few opportunities"
Funny thing is, back in the early 90's, it was Hard to find even monohull slips. For 30'ers even. Makes me wonder where the boats went, as it's not like they're adding new real estate for marinas much.
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19-01-2016, 07:20
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Cat in New Zealand, trawler in Ventura
Boat: 46' custom cat "Rum Doxy", Roughwater 41"Abreojos"
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Re: Mooring your Catamaran in Southern California
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Originally Posted by UNCIVILIZED
Funny thing is, back in the early 90's, it was Hard to find even monohull slips. For 30'ers even. Makes me wonder where the boats went, as it's not like they're adding new real estate for marinas much.
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At the Harbor Patrol office in Channel Islands they have an aerial photo of the harbor taken about 10 years ago. Almost every slip is occupied, yet today some of the marinas seem to be at about 50% occupancy. I think it's not just the economy, but the fact that back in the day small boats were relatively affordable, not so much now.
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19-01-2016, 07:25
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Cat in New Zealand, trawler in Ventura
Boat: 46' custom cat "Rum Doxy", Roughwater 41"Abreojos"
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Re: Mooring your Catamaran in Southern California
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Originally Posted by Whomda
Marina Del Rey is packed, of course, but I think there may be end ties in Ventura, Channel Islands, or San Pedro.
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We got the last end tie available in Ventura or CI when we moved to CI last year. When we left to head south in the fall there was already a boat waiting for our slip. Unfortunately, there are still a lot of monohulls and power boats occupying end ties in Southern Calif. It seems though, that, as occupancy dwindles, marina managers are starting to make an effort to reserve end ties for multihulls.
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