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Old 01-05-2008, 09:02   #1
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Moody 45 DS the missing link ?

Today I read the test report about the new Moody 45 DS in the German magazine Yacht and I must say it blew me away. It has the roominess and airy feel of a cat without the downsides ( Beam only 15 feet ) During the sea trial ( wind 20 /22 knts F5/6 ) it did 9.0 knots on a beam reach ( 90° ) and 6.8 knots close hauled ( 45° ) Not sure in which category to place it. (in between a cat and a monohull ) but in my opinion worthy of having a second look if you consider a good sailing boat with lots of room, styl and comfort.

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Uh, those numbers in that wind don't really impress me, sorry. Not for A 45' boat anyway.
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some more data :

sail area : 1033 ft2 / 96 m2 displacement : 30.000 lb / 13.6 T
Beam : 15 Ft / 4m57 LOA : 45'00" / 13m72

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Ugly boat hauling a whole load of lead and leaning over all the time. I won't be swapping. Sorry.
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Uh, those numbers in that wind don't really impress me, sorry. Not for A 45' boat anyway.

Uggly boat but the numbers are not that bad for a monohull. There are LOTS and LOTS of slower boats in that size range. 45 degrees 6.8 knots is not very impressive. Specially the angle. Still not to bad for that displacement.
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Is this the first real monomaran?

Seems like they are trying to combine some of the design features of a cat, packaged into a monhull.

As it probably lacks the bouyancy of a cat at the stern, I wonder what will happen if it gets pooped by a wave, and the sliding doors are open?

The 9 knots on a reach is around hull speed for a 45 footer. At a bit under 50% of TWS its comparable to alot of "condomarans" .

I think there absolutely is a market waiting for this boat, especially in cooler climates like up here in Northern Europe.

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Dufour made something remarkably similar for a while 6 or 7 years ago. It didn't last long in manufacture.
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I think it's a concept witch will catch on. People who are planning to live aboard will appreciate the living space. It's a fact that on average people only sail 20 % of the time they are on a so called circumnavigation.

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Mike,

It was the Dufour Atoll 43. Very similar to the Moody.

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I think it's a beautiful design that makes a lot of sense if you need to keep a boat in a marina which can't accomodate the beam of a catamaran. Strip off the mast and shorten the keel to 2.5 feet and it would make a pretty cool motor yacht to cruise the canals of Europe in. I love everything about the boat. With all that being said, I would still rather have a catamaran in the same price range because you get a whole lot more performance and room.
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Missing link? Really? What does it sell for? What HP engine drives it?

I am glad you like it, but everyone making a cruising monohull is building "DS" type boats to compete w/cats. For those who really like a mono and the mono benefits, they can be a good solution, but...

you still:
heel
need lots of HPs/wind to drive them
can't see around the "DS" area
have to bundle up to be at the helm
need deep water (what's the draft?)
etc
etc

I'm with Jeannius on this one!

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Uh, those numbers in that wind don't really impress me, sorry. Not for A 45' boat anyway.
I had the same reaction.
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standard engine Yanmar 75 HP ( 100 HP optional ) Draft : 6.52 / 1m99 ( lifting keel will folow shortly )
What's wrong with a monohull without it's downsides ?
For me it's a big step in the right direction : much more light, 360° views, everything on the same level, no more crawling down a ladder, with the selftacking jib made for single hand sailing, etc..
I was thinking of getting me a cat but this one looks like best of both worlds




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standard engine Yanmar 75 HP ( 100 HP optional ) Draft : 6.52 / 1m99 ( lifting keel will folow shortly )
What's wrong with a monohull without it's downsides ?
For me it's a big step in the right direction : much more light, 360° views, everything on the same level, no more crawling down a ladder, with the selftacking jib made for single hand sailing, etc..
I was thinking of getting me a cat but this one looks like best of both worlds




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Okay, so it has no downsides compared to a traditional mono?

1.)It only needs 75 hp to get to hull speed,maybe 100?
2.) It won't sink if holed or swamped?
3.) It doesn΄t heel much above 5 degrees - see pictures above.
4.) Has plenty of deck space
5.) Can easily carry a large dinghy on the davits
6.) The layout ensures privacy in all cabins
7.) All cabins have standing headroom
8.) The engine is not in the accomodation.


Probably a few more could be added.

Monos aren't bad boats, you just have to choose what is important for you.

So if the points you mention about light and level are the deal makers for you, then this might be the boat for you.

Good luck with your search. Try a few boats before deciding. Go for a sail with an experienced sailor on the boat type you have little expeience on.

Then make an informed decision.

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According to yacht world - just over 800,000 Aus Dollars in the old dart. (england)

For similar money you can get lots of better boats. eg lightwave 45 and yoiu can get a lot of multis for less money that are at least comparable.

Way to expensive and like most comromises it sucks at both ends, If you want what a mono gives you - then get a good mono that doesnt trade away some of its benefits. If you want a boat with the room and real worl cruising performance of a multi then get a multi.

Like the Dufour atoll, I think this one is destined to disappear.
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