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Old 02-07-2008, 03:37   #1
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Looking for THE right Multihull in size 40-45f

Looking for a 40-45f long catamaran for cruising and living for a year or more.

Cruisingplans:
Scandinavia
Holland
France
GB
Spain
Greece
Croatia
Canaria
USA
Canada
Azores
Caribean
New Zealand
Australia

In my plans, but in reality maybe it is to much. As you understund i/we would like to live long time on the boat.

We are only 2(maybe 3) persons.

We want it fast like a Gunboat 62 and big inside as a lagoon 500 , but not much more expencive than the lagoon, f-p and nautitech.

The cat must be fast and very fun to sail. Everything is a compromisse but we would like

Autopilot
Generator
Radar
Washermachine
GPS
VHF
Internet
TV
PC
Steeringwheel (and not in lagoon 440 position)
Hard/soft roof over cockpit
From 2000-New
Small R.I.B with outboard
Windsurfer
What do i need more?


Leave the squirrelwheel for a year or 20?

The question is... Wish models should suit me?

I have the Multihullmag, but itīs very hard to find a fast sailingcatamaran with good living comfort.

And the boat should be easy to find if used. Not onoff!

regards

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Old 02-07-2008, 03:47   #2
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Too many parameters to be able to get them all. My suggestions are look at some of the Australian cats, like Schionning, Bob Oram, The Pacific Cats or consider something a bit different such as a Harryproa ( my choice) for good sailing at reasonable prices.
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Old 02-07-2008, 04:20   #3
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What's your budget and how long do you intend keeping the boat? What kind of depreciation are you willing to accept.

You say that you don't want a one-off/custom boat, but want good performance...

If you want to keep the boat for a reasonable period (>5 years) I would go with a one-off or custom boat, as you will not find a standard production boat that will tick all your boxes.

That's why I have designed my own

Outremer or Freydis could tick most of your boxes but then these are more semi-custom boats.

A Chis White Atlantic 55 or smaller would also be a good choice.


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Old 02-07-2008, 04:40   #4
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Too many parameters to be able to get them all. My suggestions are look at some of the Australian cats, like Schionning, Bob Oram, The Pacific Cats or consider something a bit different such as a Harryproa ( my choice) for good sailing at reasonable prices.
Too many parameters, yes i know.

Harryproa! I like it but itīs little to much different for me.

The bob oram is new for me, i had to take a look.

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Old 02-07-2008, 04:44   #5
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What's your budget and how long do you intend keeping the boat? What kind of depreciation are you willing to accept.

You say that you don't want a one-off/custom boat, but want good performance...

If you want to keep the boat for a reasonable period (>5 years) I would go with a one-off or custom boat, as you will not find a standard production boat that will tick all your boxes.

That's why I have designed my own

Outremer or Freydis could tick most of your boxes but then these are more semi-custom boats.

A Chis White Atlantic 55 or smaller would also be a good choice.


Regards

Alan
Budget, not for a new catamaran right now, but i fix that someway

Outremer is one of my favorites, whatīs the price for them... 40-55light?

Even Chris White is on my list.... thanks.

Freydis is new for me, i will take a look.

Or a Nordic Cat?
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Old 02-07-2008, 05:12   #6
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So much depends on your budget. My suggestions:

In the $550K+ range: Chris White Atlantic 47, Lagoon 470 (Not fast, but quite quick, nonetheless, with lots of room), Outremer (fast, but not lots of room and won't tolerate lots of weight), Switch 51, Catana 47, Dolphin 46.

In the $450K - $550K range: F-P 46, Freydis 46, Catana 43 (might get one for that money), maybe an older Dolphin 46.

In the $375K - $450K range: F-P 43 (though not so quick, but good comfort), St. Francis 44 (if kept reasonably light, can be quite quick, even in light air, and good comfort).

Of course, you will make compromises in your list, somewhere along the way.

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Old 02-07-2008, 06:58   #7
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Alibi 47 good.

Alibi - Catamaran manufacturer - Constructeur de catamarans - Catalibi

Outremer 55 Light. Good

Chris White little different steeringposition and you missing big space outside at rear

Freydis. Good

Right now the outremer 55 light looks best, i am afraid to ask the price for one!
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Old 02-07-2008, 09:26   #8
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Why don't you try looking at New and Used Yachts for Sale - YachtWorld.com for a boat they have millions of boats and i'm sure you could find what you were looking for.
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Old 02-07-2008, 14:02   #9
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I did that, but i donīt really know what to look for, thats the problem.
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Old 02-07-2008, 14:05   #10
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Anyone know anything about Gunboat except their lovely video with the 62fot. My question is... Did the Gunboat 48 only have one steeringposition? The one inside.
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Freetime,

There's a wealth of information on multihulls in previous threads here on the Forum. Here's a search engine that's specific to Cruisers Forum that will help you dig into the data with well-chosen key words.

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Old 02-07-2008, 17:08   #12
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Lidgard yacht design in Australia has a very nice gunboat style 50' fast cruiser that seems to have what you want.

It's a relatively new design he has released.

Look here under multihulls: Lidgard Yacht Design website directory

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Old 02-07-2008, 17:30   #13
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I don’t quite understand the emphasis on speed. In my view, this would be the least important characteristic of a cruising boat, although I understand the fun and passage making appeal. If that’s what you want, then you are going to be looking at a lot of rare and sometimes one-off boats. Once a boat is outfitted and provisioned for cruising, it is likely to be significantly slower than what you might get out-of-the-box. I think you will find that the vagaries of weather and sea state cause the guys doing 10 kts. to often be a lot less comfortable than the guys doing 6.

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Old 04-07-2008, 07:02   #14
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Looking for a 40-45f long catamaran for cruising and living for a year or more.

Cruisingplans:
Scandinavia
Holland
France
GB
Spain
Greece
Croatia
Canaria
USA
Canada
Azores
Caribean
New Zealand
Australia

In my plans, but in reality maybe it is to much. As you understund i/we would like to live long time on the boat.

We are only 2(maybe 3) persons.

We want it fast like a Gunboat 62 and big inside as a lagoon 500 , but not much more expencive than the lagoon, f-p and nautitech.

The cat must be fast and very fun to sail. Everything is a compromisse but we would like

Autopilot
Generator
Radar
Washermachine
GPS
VHF
Internet
TV
PC
Steeringwheel (and not in lagoon 440 position)
Hard/soft roof over cockpit
From 2000-New
Small R.I.B with outboard
Windsurfer
What do i need more?


Leave the squirrelwheel for a year or 20?

The question is... Wish models should suit me?

I have the Multihullmag, but itīs very hard to find a fast sailingcatamaran with good living comfort.

And the boat should be easy to find if used. Not onoff!

regards

joakim
All of this easy fits in A FastCat 455 and more and you get speed and comfort on top

Greetings

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Old 05-07-2008, 14:53   #15
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Hello Gideon. Been away from the forum for a while and noticed Butterfly is completed. Does this one have the green motion or diesel engines? What is the weight? Thanks
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