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Old 13-06-2012, 06:44   #31
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Re: Liveaboard catamaran on a budget

The problem with cheap old boats made of plywood - is that they are made of old plywood, and are cheap partly because the odds are strong at least one of the PO's was a numpty.

There are boat building materials that are fairly forgiving of numpty owners - plywood ain't one of them.
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Old 13-06-2012, 11:35   #32
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Re: Liveaboard catamaran on a budget

Well the only ones ive been looking at have been fiberglass. I read somewhere that alloy you want to stay away from unless over 45ft or so. I would not buy a plywood boat... regardless of the price. I am thinking about getting a loan to broaden my purchase ability but let me ask you liveaboarders this. Where do you work? How do you make an income on the boat to go places and afford food and repairs?
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Old 13-06-2012, 16:03   #33
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but let me ask you liveaboarders this. Where do you work? How do you make an income on the boat to go places and afford food and repairs?
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Old 14-06-2012, 03:11   #34
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Re: Liveaboard catamaran on a budget

Consider the old GRP Prout Snowgose 35. There were a lot made, they have proved their solidity and safety through numerous circumnavigations and they have quite good accomodation for livabords. There are quite a number of these lying neglected in the UK covered in green verdigris and with weeds growing from pools of dirt, but if you can see through that and are prepared to do the work you can get a good boat. It would be very difficult to get one in your budget but probably would get one for about 20k GBP after haggling. However, you need to consider the total cost buying and fixing a bot not just the initial purchase price, as a $20k boat would almost certainly need serious money spending
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Old 24-06-2012, 11:59   #35
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Re: Liveaboard catamaran on a budget

I am looking at a few prout 35's and there is a gemini 34 and a gemini 30. The gemini 30 is within my price range but is it going to be to small for two people? will it get us up and down the east coast and into the Caribbean?
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Old 24-06-2012, 14:12   #36
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A 30 gem has three sep births you would a 39' mono give or take to do that. Coastal cruising sure np down there. But ensure safety equip and rigging are in good shape. Prout is without a doubt more seaworthy and stronger built.
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Old 25-06-2012, 08:22   #37
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I am looking at a few prout 35's and there is a gemini 34 and a gemini 30. The gemini 30 is within my price range but is it going to be to small for two people? will it get us up and down the east coast and into the Caribbean?
The size should be fine. I'd be more concerned about soft decks and hull.
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Old 25-06-2012, 10:47   #38
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Re: Liveaboard Catamaran on a Budget

If you really want to liveaboard and sail the East Coast as you say on that budget, I'm not sure why you are looking at a cat. Is there a definite reason?
in that size/price range of cats you will have greatly decreased payload capacity, and low bridgedeck clearance, and much less displacement which will equal very uncomfortable ride in any conditions. Remember, discomfort has to do with a lot more than heeling....
In addition, I just don't think it is possible to find anything but a major project cat in that price range which equals doubling your price. Most very small cats have outboard motors, which are not nearly as good for any rough water, and typically have low charging capacity.
Remember, catamarans are all the craze right now, and just about every newbie on this forum asks how to find the perfect cat at bargain prices. That pretty much rules out your finding something way below market value because there are no buyers, unless you are looking at post charter cats which probably are in higher demand (but also >>100K price)

It it were me, I'd look used monohull in the mid 30 foot range. You will be able to store much more, and the ride and living aboard will be much more comfortable.
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I would def. try to get a cat - I am close to buy a home-built cat for approx. 15k from another guy. Getting quite a discount there and need to add the essential goodies, which unfort. cost a fortune ... :-(

If you are more then one person you just need some privacy at some point which a cat will provide (2 hulls). Also the space on a cat makes a monohull feel like a prison.

If you have the money AND if you have an income to support a cat then GO FOR IT !
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Zonker, Can you send me some pictures I just want to see what a $15k home built cat looks like. We understand we will have to up our price range a little bit. The thought of sailing sideways is the biggest thing for me so the other uncomforts can be overlooked or taken care of. Personally I am pretty set on a cat the only thing I dont like are endtie rates.. haha
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Old 25-06-2012, 11:56   #41
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Also what income do you need to support a cat that you dont need to support a mono?
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Old 25-06-2012, 12:48   #42
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Zonker, Can you send me some pictures I just want to see what a $15k home built cat looks like. We understand we will have to up our price range a little bit. The thought of sailing sideways is the biggest thing for me so the other uncomforts can be overlooked or taken care of. Personally I am pretty set on a cat the only thing I dont like are endtie rates.. haha
I will send pics if things are final ... but keep in mind, I need to add essential things (for me) such as a radar, autopilot, anchor windlass, solar panels, (new) Li batteries, portable genset - that is about another 10k or so.

Nice to have stuff would be a satellite internet (Tracphone v3), water maker, warm water boiler, fridge, an electric toilet, a shower, electric propulsion etc etc .... but may be this will come with the next release ... :-)
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Also what income do you need to support a cat that you dont need to support a mono?
You have 2 hulls, you have most likely 2 engines, you have more square feet of boat surface (top and bottom) to maintain. Bottom line - cost you more to maintain then an equal length mono hull.
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Gotcha. You should send me pictures regardless because I just want something to compare it to.

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