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Old 05-01-2007, 18:41   #1
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Line driver for Main Traveler?

Hi All,

I've been lurking for a while but this is my first post. A little background - my wife, two 5 year olds sons, and I have a 1992 Catana 48 that we bought just over a year ago. We sail out of Salem Harbor in MA. We're looking eventually to cruise long term on this boat but at the moment I'm focused on getting the boat how we want her. So to my question:

I just saw in the latest Practical Sailor a report on using an Antal
Line Driver to control the main traveler on a mono-hull. Has anyone
experience with this approach on a larger catamaran? We have a Catana
48 and moving the traveler tends to be a bit involved as it is two
ended and both ends usually need tending if dropping it as the lazy
end needs pulling in while the active end is eased.

I did see that the Moorings 4600, the Leopard 43 and at least one
Privilege 39 have been rigged that way. I'd be very interested in any
experiences, or just thoughts on that. Being conservative about these
things I'd add it and leave in place the current winches and stoppers
as a backup.

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Old 05-01-2007, 18:49   #2
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Aloha Mark,
I can't help you with the traveler question but welcome aboard anyway! You might want to post a hello on the meets and greets thread just to do an introduction.
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Old 05-01-2007, 19:09   #3
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How about shortening the traveler line a bit?

A (mostly singlehander Dragonfly 1000 sailor)

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Mine is a full loop! What comes out the working end rounds up and goes in the lazy end. One continous line for both ends.

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The seawind 1160 has a winch handle driven traveler control mechanism, have a look atb their website (Seawind Catamarans - and find the photos of the 1160) and you might get an idea. The raveller is on top of the targa bar so there needed to be a way of getting at it.
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I looked at the antal line drive on my last cat but went the same system as del, just 15 ft of traveller instead of 4 ft.

Alway's had concerns of dumping the traveller quick enough with the line drive, and found with the above method [ del's] when jibing that the traveller would uncleat and allow full travel, so if holding mainsheet tail during jibe, you could get a good braking effect and get more mainsheet tension.

The thought of winching that length of traveller if doing lot's of jibing is a bit offputting to me.

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“... The thought of ... doing lot's of jibing is a bit offputting to me.”

I thought gentleman cruisers didn’t generally tack, and would’nt ever jibe.
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“... The thought of ... doing lot's of jibing is a bit offputting to me.”

I thought gentleman cruisers didn’t generally tack, and would’nt ever jibe.
I certainly won't be anymore.

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I've used the Antel system for travelers on a couple of catamarans. Works very well. As for dumping, there is a three-position lever on it. Middle position is free-reel and it will dump.

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Thanks. All good suggestions, but I should have given a little more background. This is on a 48' Catana with a 20' traveler with a 900 sq ft main. The main sheet is currently managed with line stoppers and winches as are the ends of the traveler line as well as having a 5 to 1 purchase on the traveler itself. The loads are very high. Pulling the traveler up with any load on the main requires a winch.

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I saw that mark, and that settup on mine is also used with a lot of big cat's in OZ with a single winch in the gut's and a clutch at each end.

Could be a PITA if shorthanded

But if you can dump the line drive fast maybe it's the go, after all that antal gear is pretty good, at least the bit's I used were.

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This is on a 48' Catana with a 20' traveler with a 900 sq ft main. The main sheet is currently managed with line stoppers and winches as are the ends of the traveler line as well as having a 5 to 1 purchase on the traveler itself. The loads are very high. Pulling the traveler up with any load on the main requires a winch.
900 sq. ft. main. Yeah I'd have a bit of trouble too. That's more then twice of mine.

But when I'm tacking the procedure is; to move the traveller over to the other side, FIRST, before the tack. That way I don't have to pull it over under stress. And if it's too far I can just ease off a bit. I always keep my traveller to windward as much as possible. It points the boat up as high as it'll go.

A 20' traveller is quite a bit. It must be for downwind booming?????
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