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Old 07-09-2009, 10:00   #1
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Liberal Shipping Rules?

know any one country / nation with liberal shipping rules?
Background: I want to sail a 45ft sailing catamaran with paying passengers (6pcs) ocean voyages! Under Swedish flag is the requirement that it should be at last a sea captain (4 years college etc.) if I do it only with "friends" (no payment) it´s no need for training directly! I not want get into a "gray area/zone" with paying crew, etc. so is there any nation with more liberal rules that we can flag the boat in? and then run a business / boat from that country?
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You can register your boat in Liberia. However don't expect to be able to get insurance, and don't be surprised if you have a hard time finding paying passengers.
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A number of countries now offer an ofshore registration which has relaxed rules. If I recall correctly, I think that Norway might. However, before going down that route, you will need to consider whether that will enable you to get insurance, whether there is any policy in Sweden that prevents it, and whether this will mandate a company registered in the country that you are registered in.

I believe that UK also has an offshore registration as well, and company rules are cheaper there than Norway!

with a 45 ft cat I believe you could get a commercial endorsement on a RYA yachtmaster which would be sufficient in UK
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The dilemma is that most third world countries do not care what you do with paying passengers. Unfortunately, in most third world countries you are not going to find enough people with enough money to support your business. More developed countries have relatively high standards for carrying a specific number of passengers for hire. The reason for the standards is to keep these people safe. Additionally, regardless of where you document your vessel, you still must abide by the laws of the country that you are in. In the US if you are carrying more than six passengers for hire the vessel, captain and paid crew members must meet quite a number of legal and licensing requirements.
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Old 07-09-2009, 14:40   #5
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Do you have a plan of where do you want to charter? How many groups a year do you intend to have onboard?
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Panama, Vanuatu, Cayman Islands, Transylvania ...

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Well lots of ships are registered in Panama because of the liberal shipping rules. So that is probably a good place to start your search.

Marshall Islands in the South Pacific seem popular with Mega Yachts. Nice to have your home port as Bikini Atoll!
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Caribcat:
I want to be able to charge for guests who want to follow and there is no particular people I target! but just people who want more
adventure and want to go for longer periods of 1-6 months almost as paying crew but more on business grounds, (it's my company that owns the boat, therefore)

all other: thanks everyone for the answers!


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Take a look here The Best Odyssey Yacht Share- Kiteboarding, Surfing, Sailing, Paragliding Expeditions in Style for inspiration As far as I remember taking to Gavin this is set us as a fractional ownership and therefore all paying guests are owners making it a private boat. Not many rules and regs!
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Take a look here The Best Odyssey Yacht Share- Kiteboarding, Surfing, Sailing, Paragliding Expeditions in Style for inspiration As far as I remember taking to Gavin this is set us as a fractional ownership and therefore all paying guests are owners making it a private boat. Not many rules and regs!
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he charge about $ 300 a day but my mind was only 29euro exclusive food
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