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Old 01-05-2013, 16:47   #16
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Re: Leopard, Voyage, Schionnig, etc...

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Are there websites that let you look up a particular model and see who the designer was? EG., I don't see that info on multihull dynamics.
Try Multihull Maven
there is a reasonably complete list of designers
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What ever happened to bazcatana? He could probably shed some light on these designs!
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Old 02-05-2013, 21:10   #19
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What ever happened to bazcatana? He could probably shed some light on these designs!
He certainly would.

Some of Baz's words

QUOTE My name is Barry Parkinson Ex Tornado Olympic helm and Catana 381 owner.

Where to start, Catamaran speed is a misconception, yes they should be faster than Monohulls but you don't stand a chance with the boat you chartered.

FP are not designed to sail well, they have Skeggs instead of Dagger-boards, you are up against a Monohull with a deep keel that can point to windward, you can't, you would be lucky to be beating at 40 deg while the monohull will point higher.

Your rig is 10' short like all production Cats, they don't want you to Capsize do they (bad press) and your slot might be wide open and who knows, you might have had a Blade Jib and been under canvased, where you????

I am 2 weeks away from Launching my new Web site called What Catamaran NOT TO BUY and why. Hopefully I have just told you why???

My Catana 381 sails at 35 deg to windward, out points most Monohulls who try their luck at outpointing me, I need 15 knots of wind plus because my rig is 10' to low as well but, I have a Flat top Main, full Genoa, closed slot and Dagger-boards.

There are only 10 cruising Catamarans on the market that sail like Cats are thought to sail like - quick.

Read on my friend, there is a lot to learn but, don't charter a Condo next time. Quote.
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Re: Leopard, Voyage, Schionnig, etc...

Well, this moves the thread somewhat outside the scope of my original question. The relative merits / drawbacks of specific designs is a discussion (perhaps a book) unto itself. Likely, it should be in another thread.

I was more interested why some of these cats "look" so similar. I think that's been answered above.

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perhaps a book.
Been done

Chris White - The cruising Multihull is one (probably the best) of many
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He certainly would.

Some of Baz's words

QUOTE My Catana 381 sails at 35 deg to windward,....

35 degrees to windward? For us that's reaching!
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Old 12-02-2014, 05:41   #23
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just check the weights of Schionning vs rest that will really place them apart,in lots of cases a schionning is nearly or greater than 50% of an equal length boat mentioned above
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Re: Leopard, Voyage, Schionnig, etc...

I had a chat with Alexander Siminos last year at the Annapolis boat show about this very subject. He pointed out the fact that the South African designers did boats that worked well in the seas around SA. That is why the boats "look"so much alike. He likened it to the racers that designed boats for the areas that the races are held.
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OK I will bite.


What is special about the seas around SA?
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Re: Leopard, Voyage, Schionnig, etc...

This is an old thread and has been revived. Several posts have been deleted that slipped through the last time.

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What is special about the seas around SA?
Well, we probably live on one of the wildest coastlines with big seas, strong currents and ports of safety rather far apart.
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Well, we probably live on one of the wildest coastlines with big seas, strong currents and ports of safety rather far apart.
and great white sharks if you screw up
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Well, we probably live on one of the wildest coastlines with big seas, strong currents and ports of safety rather far apart.
Nothing at all like south east Australia, Bass Straight, Southern New Zealand, Cook Strait etc then.
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