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Old 01-08-2010, 16:58   #16
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:Who is this guy???
The guy who asks questions
Especially if the numbers appear not to stack up.

I take it you are the guy who blindly accepts without doing any investigations of your own and then blames everyone else if something goes wrong?

Anyway, xxuxx, this forum is not the place for personal attacks
In no way was my comment to paul a personal attack, it was purely a questioning of the numbers, a request for more information on this vessels displacement and load carrying ability.
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Old 01-08-2010, 17:02   #17
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The displacement is NOT the maximum loaded weight of the boat.
Well that is the correct definition of displacement as I showed previously.

It would appear that the designer is also confused if he is stating a lightship weight and then calling it displacement as you claim.

Add) After having a look through this forum I see that there is another thread running that had similar questions to mine being asked
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Apologies for asking them again.

Again, congratulations on the launch and my apologies if the questions were not what you were after.
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Old 01-08-2010, 17:21   #18
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Maverick 400 Video

Congratulations! I'd never seen a Maverick 400 and located this video. Apologies if it's been posted before but I think it's worth a tour. The finish is beautifully done and allows for a lot of natural light with all the ports and glass. The hammock reminds me of the Manta design and looks very comfortable, indeed.

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Old 02-08-2010, 00:51   #19
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No problem cat man do. I think it is what people define as displacement that was causing us to miss each other. In my mind it is lightship or as some manufactures seem to do it pretty much a basic spec boat. I was excited because we had worked hard with the designer and the builder to build the boat saving weight in responsible places. I think a lot of builders do not bother because it is a lot more work. We exceeded what I was targeting and that is with a whole lot of extra's over the standard boat such as aircon, bigger motors, extra shelving, ssb, three fridge freezers etc. I posted because like you I was seriously disapointed by builders not being truthfull about weights and being unwilling to go the extra mile to make sure weight targets are met. (I also discovered a lot of people have no idea what their cats actually weigh. Phil Southwell the designer came down to the boat yesterday an was very please with the way she is floating. I will have the loadcell on the rig so I can then get a weight with the rig as well.
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Congratualtions on the launch of Catarina Paul - she's a beauty!
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Paul, she looks fabulous and the weight seems terrific, even with the exclusions. Can't wait to hear updates on her performance, etc. Kudos mate! Enjoy!

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The launching site looks like Elliot Yacht Basin (?). We sailed PUMA (Voyage 50) from there in January.
Good luck with the new boat.
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Old 09-08-2010, 00:26   #23
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Went out to check the mainsail reefing lines etc. The Genoa will be ready on Tuesday so we will try out all the sails this week. Took some pics of the mainsail.

She seems to motor well, in flat water at 2000 rpm she does 7.6kts (GPS, no current). We went out on Saturday with 16 teenager and 4 adults There was no wind but a bit of a lumpy sea. (enought to get someone sick in the boat!) we did about 6.5 knts at 1700rpm and about 7.3 to 7.5kts at 2000rpm. She also keeps the bottom step well clear of the water when motoring, a lot of cats I have been on seem to squat down a lot when motoring. Maneuvering seems great with the Flexofold props. She backs up really well, the props were a big decision, so far happy with the choice.
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There's always a few pot stirrers on every forum I've ever been in. Best to turn a deaf ear to them and ignore them. Congratulations Paul on a job well done. Its something a rare few would seriously contemplate much less accomplish. (I contemplated it for about 5 minutes a few years ago). You deserve your 15 minutes to do a little braging. Best of Luck
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I can't quite read the trailer's warning plate on the back, but it seems to read "ABNORMAL" - odd turn of phrase but perhaps the driver has a monohull

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Congrats on your launch. I watched the video that had been posted and was in awe of the boat and thoughtfulnes of the layout. You have a beautiful boat. Enjoy!!
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Old 09-08-2010, 08:19   #27
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Congratulations Paul.

Having just read the content of this thread, I now know why you asked me if I had weighed our boat before launch. We did not.

Unfortunately, unlike you and Catmando, I have no appreciation of the technicalities of multihull design and so have to rely on that risky assumption, that a large manufacturer is less likely to produce a dud than a smaller manufacturer.

And since Lagoon are not renowned for producing speedy craft anyway, my expectations were suitably limited on performance. Hence, the performance of my L400 seems fine.

Your boat looks great.

Maybe Catmando is just very interested in detail and likes to be specific. Hence his sensible cross-checking of designer/manufacturer info. However, his manner of commenting is clearly more direct than he realises.

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Old 11-08-2010, 13:14   #28
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Posted this on the "New Maverick 400" post as well, but put it here for people following the launch.

We went for the sail commissioning test this afternoon with three people from maverick, two from Northsails and 2 from Southern Spars. I was not hopeful as the wind was very very light. We also had limited time so did not do any focussed sail tweaking to try and get good performance. I noted down some stats with the different sails. All speeds are GPS, there was no tide, and all the windspeeds and angles are apparent. I will post some more info when we have the time to tweak the sails to get max performance and do more angles.

I noted down the following:
Main and Genoa - 6.2kts apparent wind, 55Deg angle boatspeed 3.8kts
Main and screecher 5.8kts apparent wind,90deg angle 5.6kts boatspeed
Main and assymetrical 5.6 kts apparent wind, 100deg angle boat speed 6 kts
Main and assymetrical 5.3kts apparent wind, 150deg angle boat speed 5.4kts.

I noticed with the tiny puffs she accelerated easily, she was so silent and the wakes were so smooth.

For me it is really exciting, it has been a long but fun road with the build. The north sails look fantastic and she performs way in excess of my expectations. The only hard thing was to drop the sails and come back to the harbour. For a true cruising cat I believe she performs exceptionally well. I am looking forward to a nice long sail where I can really tweak the sails to see what she can do. In light winds she seems fantastic, I reckon I am going to be sailing nicely when a lot of other people are motoring.

I stupidly left my camera in the car, however one of the guys from Southern Spars had one so I will try to get his pics.
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Some pictures from sailing in Table Bay today. I loaded the boat up from the last sail, diesel from about 150l to 450l and water at 380l plus 13 people onboard. The wind was a light to moderate NW with a bit of a lumpy sea. I took pics of the speed and wind at various times Found the following. 7.7kts in 10.2kts true wind at 80deg, 7.9kts in 9.5kts true at 80deg, 6.8kts in 8.2kts apparent at 70deg. Our max sailing speed was 8.9kts per the max speed reading. The wind never got over 12 kts.
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Some interior pics, one disclaimer I am a bad photographer!
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