Here is a reply to your post about larger cats (in CAPS below for easy recognition):
for a flybridge style 4 cabin
with all the heavy stuff - washing
machine, desalinator, dishwasher, lots of refrigeration
, etc etc
able to be managed with three competent crew
I have looked at the Lagoon
560 and the FP Sanya 57 and the Sunreef 58.
Any others that compare?
How would you compare these three? Has anyone experience with one or more? Build quality, setup?
Are these going to be slow around a course? How would you compare sailing ability and speed?
Finally, am I unrealistic in my expectations?"
Please give it to me straight!! All opinions much appreciated."
I HAVE OWNED TWO LAGOONS. THEY ARE A GREAT VALUE. WHY? BECAUSE LAGOON
IS PART OF THE BENETEAU
GROUP AND THEY BUILD 2,500 YACHTS/YEAR. SO WHEN THEY BUY ENGINES, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY BUY HUNDREDS AT A TIME AND GET THEM FOR ALMOST HALF OF WHAT THE OTHER BUILDERS PAY...SAME THING GOES FOR RIGGING
, RESIN, ETC...SO THEY CAN AFFORD TO BUILD A YACHT FOR 30-40% LESS AND STILL MAKE MONEY
FOR THEIR SHAREHOLDERS. LEOPARDS HAVE A SIMILAR "ECONOMY OF SCALE" ADVANTAGE BUT NOT AS MUCH. LEOPARDS HAVE COME A LONG WAY AND YOU MUST SEE ONE... FP HAS A TERRIBLE WARRANTY HISTORY
AND WERE BANNED FROM DOING BUSINESS IN THE U.S. FOR A DECADE BECAUSE THEY TOLD AN OWNER TO "JUMP IN THE LAKE" AND REFUSED TO FIX A DELAMINATION
PROBLEM AND THE RESULTING COURT JUDGEMENT BARRED THEM FROM DOING BUSINESS FOR 10 YEARS. SO I WOULDN'T EVER BUY A NEW BOAT FROM THEM. USED FP'S CAN BE OK BUT A THOROUGH PRE-PURCHASE SURVEY
IS A MUST. SUNREEFS HAVE A FIT AND FINISH THAT ISN'T THE BEST...THEY LOOK SLICK WHEN NEW BUT DON'T HOLD UP TOO WELL. THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A HUGE PERCENTAGE OF THEM ON THE USED-MARKET...THEY ALL SAIL ABOUT THE SAME WHEN YOU INSTALL THE EQUIPMENT
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. BESIDES, WHEN YOU WANT TO GO FAST DON'T TAKE A SAILBOAT: GET ON AN AIRPLANE.
JUST WONDERING WHY YOU NEED 3 CREW?... IF THE BOAT IS SET-UP CORRECTLY IT CAN BE DONE WITH LESS CREW UNLESS YOU ARE DOING VERY HIGH END CHARTERS/ENTERTAINING...
ARE THE BEST-BUILT CATS BUT YOU PAY EXTRA FOR THIS. KINDA LIKE OWNING A ROLLS OR BENTLEY SO IF THAT IS YOUR THING YOU MUST SEE A PRIVILEGE
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