Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 13-06-2013, 16:21   #16
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 25
Re: Lagoon or Sunreef or FP?

Hi
Here is a reply to your post about larger cats (in CAPS below for easy recognition):

Your post:
"My preferences:
for a flybridge style 4 cabin cruising cat.
with all the heavy stuff - washing machine, desalinator, dishwasher, lots of refrigeration, etc etc
able to be managed with three competent crew
I have looked at the Lagoon 560 and the FP Sanya 57 and the Sunreef 58.

Questions:
Any others that compare?
How would you compare these three? Has anyone experience with one or more? Build quality, setup?
Are these going to be slow around a course? How would you compare sailing ability and speed?
Finally, am I unrealistic in my expectations?"

Please give it to me straight!! All opinions much appreciated."

I HAVE OWNED TWO LAGOONS. THEY ARE A GREAT VALUE. WHY? BECAUSE LAGOON IS PART OF THE BENETEAU GROUP AND THEY BUILD 2,500 YACHTS/YEAR. SO WHEN THEY BUY ENGINES, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY BUY HUNDREDS AT A TIME AND GET THEM FOR ALMOST HALF OF WHAT THE OTHER BUILDERS PAY...SAME THING GOES FOR RIGGING, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING, RESIN, ETC...SO THEY CAN AFFORD TO BUILD A YACHT FOR 30-40% LESS AND STILL MAKE MONEY FOR THEIR SHAREHOLDERS. LEOPARDS HAVE A SIMILAR "ECONOMY OF SCALE" ADVANTAGE BUT NOT AS MUCH. LEOPARDS HAVE COME A LONG WAY AND YOU MUST SEE ONE... FP HAS A TERRIBLE WARRANTY HISTORY AND WERE BANNED FROM DOING BUSINESS IN THE U.S. FOR A DECADE BECAUSE THEY TOLD AN OWNER TO "JUMP IN THE LAKE" AND REFUSED TO FIX A DELAMINATION PROBLEM AND THE RESULTING COURT JUDGEMENT BARRED THEM FROM DOING BUSINESS FOR 10 YEARS. SO I WOULDN'T EVER BUY A NEW BOAT FROM THEM. USED FP'S CAN BE OK BUT A THOROUGH PRE-PURCHASE SURVEY IS A MUST. SUNREEFS HAVE A FIT AND FINISH THAT ISN'T THE BEST...THEY LOOK SLICK WHEN NEW BUT DON'T HOLD UP TOO WELL. THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A HUGE PERCENTAGE OF THEM ON THE USED-MARKET...THEY ALL SAIL ABOUT THE SAME WHEN YOU INSTALL THE EQUIPMENT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. BESIDES, WHEN YOU WANT TO GO FAST DON'T TAKE A SAILBOAT: GET ON AN AIRPLANE.
JUST WONDERING WHY YOU NEED 3 CREW?... IF THE BOAT IS SET-UP CORRECTLY IT CAN BE DONE WITH LESS CREW UNLESS YOU ARE DOING VERY HIGH END CHARTERS/ENTERTAINING...
PRIVILEGE ARE THE BEST-BUILT CATS BUT YOU PAY EXTRA FOR THIS. KINDA LIKE OWNING A ROLLS OR BENTLEY SO IF THAT IS YOUR THING YOU MUST SEE A PRIVILEGE (615 0R 745)
__________________

__________________
BOATaHOLIC is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
lagoon

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
400: Lagoon 400 S2 Wayward Wind Lagoon Catamarans 10 03-02-2015 04:04
39: Lagoon 39 Wayward Wind Lagoon Catamarans 177 06-07-2013 22:38
FP Venezia 42 vs Lagoon 42 TPI? mirchow Multihull Sailboats 8 24-01-2012 14:14
General Info: Mapping Facility for Lagoon Catamarans philbusby Lagoon Catamarans 1 15-07-2011 12:17



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 18:36.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.