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Old 17-09-2014, 16:18   #31
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Argh! I stand corrected. I see you guys differentiate between piercing and a more serious damage of the skin.

OK.

If no catastrophic structural failure in the laminated panels, then why did this boat disintegrate in such a shameful manner?

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Old 17-09-2014, 17:13   #32
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FWIW, this Lagoon doesn't have a flybridge. It's very definitely an earlier model, which would include the 380, 410, 470, and 570. Which one of those, I don't know, but you have only to look at the windows to rule out the 440 and newer.
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Argh! I stand corrected. I see you guys differentiate between piercing and a more serious damage of the skin.

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If no catastrophic structural failure in the laminated panels, then why did this boat disintegrate in such a shameful manner?

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Well there is lamination and there is lamination, there is resin infusion and there is resin infusion. There is layup and there is layup. A properly built vacuum infused monolithic hull moulding should loose little of its strength with a piercing or holing. Certainly it should not cause a catastrophic break up of the vessel. Why this vessel did it, I have no idea, you should perhaps pose that question to the builders of this vessel.
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Old 18-09-2014, 02:16   #34
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Re: Lagoon Cat smashed in Thailand

Well I have a confession to make. This is my boat.

A storm came up. The bridge deck blew off in the 400kt winds but the hulls are still safely in the anchorage attached to my expertly set 10,000# Rocna and awesome 6" link chain...
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Old 18-09-2014, 02:27   #35
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Old 18-09-2014, 03:17   #36
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I don't see how piercing the outer skin causes the sandwich structure to go quickly, especially if it's a foam core.


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i would advise to visit any larger marina, yacht club with yacht repair facilities, you are bound to see exactly what happens when water seeps into core, foam doesnt stop seeping in, the foam deteriorates as well as not designed to water exposure! The cost to repair is huge as only highly specialized experienced hull repair works.


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Old 18-09-2014, 03:20   #37
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i would advise to visit any larger marina, yacht club with yacht repair facilities, you are bound to see exactly what happens when water seeps into core, foam doesnt stop seeping in, the foam deteriorates as well as not designed to water exposure! The cost to repair is huge as only highly specialized experienced hull repair works.


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the fact that a simple scratch can cause water seepage is very scary. If you have a yacht you actually use, you will know how easily a scratch can happen, someone visuts you with a hard tender and hits your hull.......


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Old 18-09-2014, 03:22   #38
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Re: Lagoon Cat smashed in Thailand

Shhhh! The ancient cat burial ground has been discovered, this is where cats go to die. Bolstering the myth that cats cannot sink. For those cat owners that have lost their sense of humor since purchasing a cat, this is a JOKE. No Offense Intended.
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Old 18-09-2014, 04:13   #39
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This wasn't an accident, someone got sick of the stuffy bridge deck cabin, cut it of and now have a beautiful open bridge deck Lagoon!
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Old 18-09-2014, 07:37   #40
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i would advise to visit any larger marina, yacht club with yacht repair facilities, you are bound to see exactly what happens when water seeps into core, foam doesnt stop seeping in, the foam deteriorates as well as not designed to water exposure! The cost to repair is huge as only highly specialized experienced hull repair works.


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Can't see how a closed cell foam such as Klegecell or Core Cell that has been vacuum bagged is going to deteriorate when exposed to water.


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Based on the winches on the mast and the Hardtop design I'm guessing a 410 probably a 2000.

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Can't see how a closed cell foam such as Klegecell or Core Cell that has been vacuum bagged is going to deteriorate when exposed to water.


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ask yourself if these cores are designed for direct exposure to salt water, why do yards replace the core as well when seepage! then the main damage will be caused by large areas inside core area suffering from water seepage try hull! It ends up being so costly some yachts have to be written off


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ask yourself if these cores are designed for direct exposure to salt water, why do yards replace the core as well when seepage! then the main damage will be caused by large areas inside core area suffering from water seepage try hull! It ends up being so costly some yachts have to be written off


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Name them. Look I am sure some have - but not ones built properly.
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Certainly seen better days
It would appear dheads chartering anchored in the wrong spot at the wrong time,
though I would have thought if monsoon season the charter company would have said that spot was a no go zone and would have said so again at afternoon sched , if they even have one.



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Re: Lagoon Cat smashed in Thailand

This Lagoon is obviously a write off, and looking at the extensive damage it is hard to imagine that any boat (yes even an aluminium one ) could have survived.

However, it would be nice to compare the hull layup of different makes of boats. Often the glossy brochures contain little information and specific questions are met with blank stares or total misinformation from the salesmen.

If I am buying a boat I want to first know how it is constructed not what colours are optional for the seat cushions.
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