Lagoon 400 - Page 2

Jeannius · 28-08-2008, 14:40

Quote:

but they do not beach well

Ian... You'll never beach a cat once you've seen what it does to your antifouling

Interesting shot of the 395.. I can see out while seated at the chart table on a 435 but it does look as though the windows are higher in that shot

ireaney · 28-08-2008, 14:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeannius

Ian... You'll never beach a cat once you've seen what it does to your antifouling

Interesting shot of the 395.. I can see out while seated at the chart table on a 435 but it does look as though the windows are higher in that shot

Hi Mike, I hope you are having fun and enjoying yourself, in no. 11 of this thread I did say the only Priv for me would be the 435/445 as they are the only ones that you can see forward out of the windows when sitting, am I right or wrong??
Also beaching a cat, does it do that much harm to the antifouling?
Cheers
Ian

Jeannius · 28-08-2008, 16:09

Ian

Most antifouls that I've seen used are soft enough to rub off with your hand. Any sort of friction on sand will go right through it very quickly. I know there are some really hard antifouls but I think they are very expensive.

I really don't know about the visibility out of the 395. The windows certainly look too high in that photo but maybe the seat backs are low. I just find it difficult to believe that the smaller boat has higher windows.

lstyles · 30-10-2008, 09:46

Does anyone have any updates on the Lagoon 400? Price? Delivery date? Options? Pro/Con?
Lori

Hyprdrv · 31-10-2008, 06:15

My broker sent me the CAD video of the 40 and a price of $395k. His comment in the Email was "I expect the 2010 models to be sold out before the end of 2008", which leads me to believe the first delivery will be 2010. It kind of looks like a cross between the 44 and the 38 which makes sense. 3 cabin/3 head config. I don't like the 2 private smaller heads and would prefer 1 larger one on the guest side. The smooth lines of the ridged bimini to salon make more sense to me than a "window" area of 10" on other cats to see from the helm although the exposed helm presents some issues but much better than the isolation/separation of the larger cat. But what do I know, I'm a newbie.

Steve in VA

Asa-san · 19-03-2009, 08:59

Here are some details on L400- hope it helps gentleman.

2009 MODEL LAGOON 400

ORDER CONFIRMATION
US $ AS ORDERED

01 BASE PRICE B 2009 CHARTER ( 4 cabin, 4 head ) 2 x 29HP YANMAR 3YM30 $369,200
OWNER ( 3 cabin, 3 head ) 2 x 29HP YANMAR 3YM30 $365,000

02 UPHOLSTERY / CURTAINS CURTAINS ON SALON DOOR (Sahara Sesame) $781
MOSQUITO SCREENS $210
STANDARD UPHOLSTERY Trajan Sand (Salon & Settees) STD
SPECIAL UPHOLSTERY $350

03 EQUIPMENT CONFIGURATION ESSENTIAL $18,768
CRUISING $31,828
COMFORT (M) $47,320
STORAGE UNIT UNDER HELM STATION E C M
PAIR OF STAINLESS STEEL DINGHY DAVITS E C M
110 V ELECTRICAL CIRCUIT with 40 Amp BATTERY CHARGER E C M
2 ADDITIONAL SERVICE BATTERIES 140Amp E C M
PROPANE OVEN with BROILER & S/S INTERIOR E C M
SHOWER DOOR E C M
DOUBLE SOUND INSULATED FLOOR IN ENGINE COMPARTMENTS E C M
AFT PORT HOLES IN AFT CABINS E C M
WATERPROOF LOUDSPEAKERS IN COCKPIT E C M
RADIO / CD PLAYER MP3 + 2 LOUDSPEAKERS IN SALOON E C M
NAVPACK RAYMARINE 2009 E C M
GENAKER RIG AND POLE (No sail) C M
FOLDING BLUE CANVAS BIMINI C M
ELECTRIC MANOEUVRE WINCH 46.2STCEH C M
PULPIT WITH WOODEN SEAT C M
SEA & FRESH WATER FOOT PUMPS IN GALLEY C M
FRESHWATER DOCK INLET C M
2 ELECTRIC GENOA SHEET WINCHES 46.2STCEH M
AFT COCKPIT FLOOR IN TEAK M
DECK WASH DOWN PUMP SEA WATER / FRESH WATER M
E120 DISPLAY AT HELM STATION M
RADAR ANTENNA 24KW 24NM M
AUTOPILOT REMOTE SMARTCONTROL M

04 RIGGING & SAILS GENAKER $7,945
LAZY BAG WITH BLUE COVER $1,061
DOYLE MAINSAIL CRADLE COVER IN BLUE $3,235
SPINNAKER GEAR Cruising Pack Compulsary) $1,831

05 DECK GEAR 2ND SWIM LADDER & 2ND HOT/COLD COCKPIT SHOWER $571
AFT COCKPIT SEAT CUSHIONS BEIGE $2,240
COCKPIT SIDES & AFT SUN CANVAS $1,645
COMPOSITE COCKPIT TABLE in lieu of coffee table Request
ELECTRIC WINCH FOR DAVITS 40.2STCE $2,905
110V ICEMAKER in COCKPIT $2,544
OUTBOARD ENGINE BRACKET ON PUSHPIT $175
COCKPIT ENCLOSURE WITH CLEAR PANELS $3,664
PAIR OF SUN LOUNGER PADS BEIGE $1,400

06 ENGINES UPGRADE TO 40 HP VOLVO D2-40 $5,484
UPGRADE TO 40 HP YANMAR 3JH4ATCE $4,014
PAIR OF 3 BLADE FOLDING PROPS TBC

07 ELECTRICAL CIRCUIT 12V SOCKET IN CABIN (PER CABIN) $140
12V 110V INVERTER 2000W $5,191
GENSET ONAN 7 KVA 110V/60 HZ WITH COCOON $19,950
UPGRADE TO GEL SERVICE BATTERIES $2,426

08 WATER CIRCUIT EXTRA WATER TANK 87 GALLONS (not with watermaker) $829
HOLDING TANKS, DECK-SEA $2,345
WC ELECTRIC QUIET FLUSH ALL CABINS $3,010
WATER MAKER 26 GALS per HOUR 110V $16,496

09 INTERIOR EQUIPMENT ADDITIONAL 12V FREEZER 29 GALLONS (not available with additional fridge) $2,286
ADDITIONAL 12V FRIDGE 29 GALLONS (not available with additional freezer) $1,610
BERTH IN PORT BOW $1,131
BERTH IN STB BOW $1,131
A/C 44,000 BTU 110V FOR OWNER LAYOUT $20,510
A/C 48,000 BTU 110V FOR CHARTER LAYOUT $23,159
DIESEL HEATER $8,061
SALOON TABLE CONVERTIBLE TO DOUBLE BERTH $339
12V FAN IN CABINS and SALON $980
MICROWAVE OVER & GRILL $560
UNDERBED SLATS $886
WASHING MACHINE 3 KG 110V $1,925

10 HI-FI & ELECTRONICS AIS RAYMARINE SYSTEM WITH ANTENNA COUPLING $1,365
E120 DISPLAY AT NAV STATION $6,324
RAYMARINE SEATALK / USB PC LINK $851
RUDDER JOYSTICK AT CHART TABLE) $1,610
TV ANTENNA IN MAST and 110V OUTLET $444
TV LCD 20" with DVD MP3 PLAYER IN SALON $3,546
VHF RAYMARINE 55 US CHANNELS WITH DSC $794
VHF CABLE AND ANTENNA IN MAST $344

10 MOORING, LAUNCHING ANCHOR SET : 20KG FLAT ANCHOR, 75M OF CHAIN D10, WRAP D18 $1,306
DELIVERY ANTIFOULING BLUE INTERNATIONAL (PRIMER EPOXY) $2,927
MOORING KIT: 6 FENDERS + 4 MOORING ROPES $886
50 FT 50AMP 125/250V MARINCO SHORE POWER CORD $838
PLASTIC COVER FOR TRANSPORT FOR LAUNCHING $1,715
LIFERAFT/SAFETY PACK $3,143
LAUNCHING AND RIGGING $10,368
DEALER PREPARATION $9,312
FRENCH EXPORTATION FEES $792
NAME AND HAILING PORT $443

Retail Price $0

1. Base price includes delivery to East Coast USA or Caribbean.
2. Importation, duties, taxes and rigging are not included in Lagoon base pricing.
3. Prices and Equipment subject to change.
Ordered BY: Dated:

Accepted BY:

talus · 01-07-2009, 16:37

Broker told me they dropped the base price to $315,000 USD on the first 5 boats (one was still available). That sure makes it competitive with a lot of used 410's.

Asa-san · 01-07-2009, 20:38

Just receintly I had chartered FP in effort to see differences in workmanship and fit out between Lagoon and FP. Well, also to have abit of good time as well. They are too very agresive in their pricing at the moment and to be honest as boats are still considered luxury items I believe it will be some time before things pick up and we will see prices going up. So, I will sit for a while, see how things progress, how many boats come out of charter market (they will as the squeeze gets harder) and maybe along the way I will find my bargain.
Having said that, 315K does sound better than a lot of 2nd hand boats out there, even if taking into account aditional 50-60K to fit it out.

28-08-2008, 16:09	#18
Jeannius Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Grenada and Worcester U.K. Boat: Privilege 435 Posts: 281	Ian Most antifouls that I've seen used are soft enough to rub off with your hand. Any sort of friction on sand will go right through it very quickly. I know there are some really hard antifouls but I think they are very expensive. I really don't know about the visibility out of the 395. The windows certainly look too high in that photo but maybe the seat backs are low. I just find it difficult to believe that the smaller boat has higher windows. __________________ Mike http://www.sailbvi.net/Jeannius http://sailingjeannius.blogspot.com

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Asa-san Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2	Here are some details on L400- hope it helps gentleman. 2009 MODEL LAGOON 400 ORDER CONFIRMATION US $ AS ORDERED 01 BASE PRICE B 2009 CHARTER ( 4 cabin, 4 head ) 2 x 29HP YANMAR 3YM30 $369,200 OWNER ( 3 cabin, 3 head ) 2 x 29HP YANMAR 3YM30 $365,000 02 UPHOLSTERY / CURTAINS CURTAINS ON SALON DOOR (Sahara Sesame) $781 MOSQUITO SCREENS $210 STANDARD UPHOLSTERY Trajan Sand (Salon & Settees) STD SPECIAL UPHOLSTERY $350 03 EQUIPMENT CONFIGURATION ESSENTIAL $18,768 CRUISING $31,828 COMFORT (M) $47,320 STORAGE UNIT UNDER HELM STATION E C M PAIR OF STAINLESS STEEL DINGHY DAVITS E C M 110 V ELECTRICAL CIRCUIT with 40 Amp BATTERY CHARGER E C M 2 ADDITIONAL SERVICE BATTERIES 140Amp E C M PROPANE OVEN with BROILER & S/S INTERIOR E C M SHOWER DOOR E C M DOUBLE SOUND INSULATED FLOOR IN ENGINE COMPARTMENTS E C M AFT PORT HOLES IN AFT CABINS E C M WATERPROOF LOUDSPEAKERS IN COCKPIT E C M RADIO / CD PLAYER MP3 + 2 LOUDSPEAKERS IN SALOON E C M NAVPACK RAYMARINE 2009 E C M GENAKER RIG AND POLE (No sail) C M FOLDING BLUE CANVAS BIMINI C M ELECTRIC MANOEUVRE WINCH 46.2STCEH C M PULPIT WITH WOODEN SEAT C M SEA & FRESH WATER FOOT PUMPS IN GALLEY C M FRESHWATER DOCK INLET C M 2 ELECTRIC GENOA SHEET WINCHES 46.2STCEH M AFT COCKPIT FLOOR IN TEAK M DECK WASH DOWN PUMP SEA WATER / FRESH WATER M E120 DISPLAY AT HELM STATION M RADAR ANTENNA 24KW 24NM M AUTOPILOT REMOTE SMARTCONTROL M 04 RIGGING & SAILS GENAKER $7,945 LAZY BAG WITH BLUE COVER $1,061 DOYLE MAINSAIL CRADLE COVER IN BLUE $3,235 SPINNAKER GEAR Cruising Pack Compulsary) $1,831 05 DECK GEAR 2ND SWIM LADDER & 2ND HOT/COLD COCKPIT SHOWER $571 AFT COCKPIT SEAT CUSHIONS BEIGE $2,240 COCKPIT SIDES & AFT SUN CANVAS $1,645 COMPOSITE COCKPIT TABLE in lieu of coffee table Request ELECTRIC WINCH FOR DAVITS 40.2STCE $2,905 110V ICEMAKER in COCKPIT $2,544 OUTBOARD ENGINE BRACKET ON PUSHPIT $175 COCKPIT ENCLOSURE WITH CLEAR PANELS $3,664 PAIR OF SUN LOUNGER PADS BEIGE $1,400 06 ENGINES UPGRADE TO 40 HP VOLVO D2-40 $5,484 UPGRADE TO 40 HP YANMAR 3JH4ATCE $4,014 PAIR OF 3 BLADE FOLDING PROPS TBC 07 ELECTRICAL CIRCUIT 12V SOCKET IN CABIN (PER CABIN) $140 12V 110V INVERTER 2000W $5,191 GENSET ONAN 7 KVA 110V/60 HZ WITH COCOON $19,950 UPGRADE TO GEL SERVICE BATTERIES $2,426 08 WATER CIRCUIT EXTRA WATER TANK 87 GALLONS (not with watermaker) $829 HOLDING TANKS, DECK-SEA $2,345 WC ELECTRIC QUIET FLUSH ALL CABINS $3,010 WATER MAKER 26 GALS per HOUR 110V $16,496 09 INTERIOR EQUIPMENT ADDITIONAL 12V FREEZER 29 GALLONS (not available with additional fridge) $2,286 ADDITIONAL 12V FRIDGE 29 GALLONS (not available with additional freezer) $1,610 BERTH IN PORT BOW $1,131 BERTH IN STB BOW $1,131 A/C 44,000 BTU 110V FOR OWNER LAYOUT $20,510 A/C 48,000 BTU 110V FOR CHARTER LAYOUT $23,159 DIESEL HEATER $8,061 SALOON TABLE CONVERTIBLE TO DOUBLE BERTH $339 12V FAN IN CABINS and SALON $980 MICROWAVE OVER & GRILL $560 UNDERBED SLATS $886 WASHING MACHINE 3 KG 110V $1,925 10 HI-FI & ELECTRONICS AIS RAYMARINE SYSTEM WITH ANTENNA COUPLING $1,365 E120 DISPLAY AT NAV STATION $6,324 RAYMARINE SEATALK / USB PC LINK $851 RUDDER JOYSTICK AT CHART TABLE) $1,610 TV ANTENNA IN MAST and 110V OUTLET $444 TV LCD 20" with DVD MP3 PLAYER IN SALON $3,546 VHF RAYMARINE 55 US CHANNELS WITH DSC $794 VHF CABLE AND ANTENNA IN MAST $344 10 MOORING, LAUNCHING ANCHOR SET : 20KG FLAT ANCHOR, 75M OF CHAIN D10, WRAP D18 $1,306 DELIVERY ANTIFOULING BLUE INTERNATIONAL (PRIMER EPOXY) $2,927 MOORING KIT: 6 FENDERS + 4 MOORING ROPES $886 50 FT 50AMP 125/250V MARINCO SHORE POWER CORD $838 PLASTIC COVER FOR TRANSPORT FOR LAUNCHING $1,715 LIFERAFT/SAFETY PACK $3,143 LAUNCHING AND RIGGING $10,368 DEALER PREPARATION $9,312 FRENCH EXPORTATION FEES $792 NAME AND HAILING PORT $443 Retail Price $0 1. Base price includes delivery to East Coast USA or Caribbean. 2. Importation, duties, taxes and rigging are not included in Lagoon base pricing. 3. Prices and Equipment subject to change. Ordered BY: Dated: Accepted BY:

01-07-2009, 16:37	#22
talus Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: WCVI Boat: Edel 665 (makes it sound HUGE), and Ericson 32T (when we can). Posts: 65	Broker told me they dropped the base price to $315,000 USD on the first 5 boats (one was still available). That sure makes it competitive with a lot of used 410's.

01-07-2009, 20:38	#23
Asa-san Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2	Just receintly I had chartered FP in effort to see differences in workmanship and fit out between Lagoon and FP. Well, also to have abit of good time as well. They are too very agresive in their pricing at the moment and to be honest as boats are still considered luxury items I believe it will be some time before things pick up and we will see prices going up. So, I will sit for a while, see how things progress, how many boats come out of charter market (they will as the squeeze gets harder) and maybe along the way I will find my bargain. Having said that, 315K does sound better than a lot of 2nd hand boats out there, even if taking into account aditional 50-60K to fit it out.