Lagoon 380 tragedy

cruisecat99 · 23-02-2007, 10:57

does anybody know more? appearantly they were on their way to Annapolis for handover to the owner. Very tragic, our thoughts are with the family of the skipper

Sailor dies, two crewmen rescued 200 miles at sea

Rescue: Photo Glenn Tucker This is the US Coast Guard helicopter crew that rescued two sailors from a capsized catamaran some 200 miles off Bermuda Pictured are Lt CommanderAdam Kerr, Lt. Andy Schanno, Tom Romero, and Michael Ackermann.

By Tim Smith

A sailor died and two others are in hospital after being forced to cling to their capsized boat for up to nine hours as 30-feet waves battered them in a ferocious storm.

Lodesman · 23-02-2007, 18:38

article in YBW - 'Skipper froze to death as we clung to capsized cat'

Chuteman · 23-02-2007, 19:35

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Jeannius · 24-02-2007, 00:16

Are you sure this was a Lagoon 380? All French cats over 35 ft have to have escape hatches that can be accessed from both sides in the event of a capsize. Surely they'd have been able to get back inside the hull to shelter?

GordMay · 24-02-2007, 04:17

More on the off-shore search & rescue case ~ by Peter Stinson (The Tidewater Muse)
This appears to be a transcript of the the Coast Guard report:
Goto:
Tidewater Musings: More on the off-shore search & rescue case

Jeff · 24-02-2007, 06:50

It was a Lagoon 440. The family reports the tragedy here:
Steve Hobley:

j

rtbates · 01-03-2007, 08:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeannius

Are you sure this was a Lagoon 380? All French cats over 35 ft have to have escape hatches that can be accessed from both sides in the event of a capsize. Surely they'd have been able to get back inside the hull to shelter?

I'd highly doubt that you can UNLOCK the hatch from OUTSIDE.

Ram · 01-03-2007, 09:51

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I'd highly doubt that you can UNLOCK the hatch from OUTSIDE

rtbates

This is true...BUT on my cat and I expect all new cats there is a large RED warning sticker at the excape hatch that says WARNING keep hatch unlocked wile sailing

And in fact I never lock mie wile underway, I have wondered why these folks did not open them up & go inside?

Jeannius · 01-03-2007, 11:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtbates

I'd highly doubt that you can UNLOCK the hatch from OUTSIDE.

You can on a Privilege... There is a locking bar that will - or at least should - drop off if the boat is ever inverted leaving you then with a standard lewmar hatch that can be opened from the outside.

I fly out on Saturday for an offshore passage to St Lucia and you can be certain I'll be checking that the locking bar is still free to move.

Lucky · 06-05-2007, 09:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtbates

I'd highly doubt that you can UNLOCK the hatch from OUTSIDE.

You should be able to and this is a CE requirement that all French builders adhere to. My Belize 43 have escape hatches in the heads and a custom fitted aluminium bar connects over the opening handles. This is held down by gravity and if the boat should go belly up this will fall down and the outside handles can be used.

This system allows for locking mechanism to prevent intrusion under normal sircumstances but allows entry if flipped without doing any prior actions to allo for re-entry.

Happy lead free sailin
Lucky

gonesail · 24-02-2007, 06:53

those cats sail nice and level ... but when they go over ... they don't come back up.

cat man do · 24-02-2007, 06:58

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Originally Posted by gonesail

those cats sail nice and level ... but when they go over ... they don't come back up.

Not Quite the same thing as a Lagoon 440 me think's

Dave

Efraim · 25-02-2007, 09:07

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Originally Posted by cat man do

Not Quite the same thing as a Lagoon 440 me think's

Dave

Not the same boat, however the same principle, cat's are just as stable inverted as they are right side up.

Tnflakbait · 25-02-2007, 10:01

Anyone hear anthing new? Was a drogue or a sea anchor used?

44'cruisingcat · 25-02-2007, 17:48

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Originally Posted by Efraim

Not the same boat, however the same principle, cat's are just as stable inverted as they are right side up.

Yes. and mono's acheive maximum stability right side up. Sitting on the bottom. Pro's and cons for both. I prefer to be afloat. You can make your own choice.

23-02-2007, 10:57	#1
cruisecat99 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4	Lagoon 380 tragedy does anybody know more? appearantly they were on their way to Annapolis for handover to the owner. Very tragic, our thoughts are with the family of the skipper Sailor dies, two crewmen rescued 200 miles at sea Rescue: Photo Glenn Tucker This is the US Coast Guard helicopter crew that rescued two sailors from a capsized catamaran some 200 miles off Bermuda Pictured are Lt CommanderAdam Kerr, Lt. Andy Schanno, Tom Romero, and Michael Ackermann. By Tim Smith A sailor died and two others are in hospital after being forced to cling to their capsized boat for up to nine hours as 30-feet waves battered them in a ferocious storm. Last edited by S/V Elusive; 23-02-2007 at 11:16.

23-02-2007, 19:35	#3
Chuteman Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: SF Bay Area, CA, USA Posts: 186	More Details Sail World: Sail and sailing, cruising, boating news

24-02-2007, 00:16	#4
Jeannius Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Grenada and Worcester U.K. Boat: Privilege 435 Posts: 284	Are you sure this was a Lagoon 380? All French cats over 35 ft have to have escape hatches that can be accessed from both sides in the event of a capsize. Surely they'd have been able to get back inside the hull to shelter? __________________ Mike http://www.sailbvi.net/Jeannius http://sailingjeannius.blogspot.com

24-02-2007, 04:17	#5
GordMay Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W Boat: C.L.O.D. (Cruiser Living On Dirt) Posts: 12,582	More on the off-shore search & rescue case ~ by Peter Stinson (The Tidewater Muse) This appears to be a transcript of the the Coast Guard report: Goto: Tidewater Musings: More on the off-shore search & rescue case __________________ Gord May ~~_/)_~~ (Gord & Maggie - "Southbound") "If you didn't have time/$ to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"

24-02-2007, 06:50	#6
Jeff Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 46	It was a Lagoon 440. The family reports the tragedy here: Steve Hobley: j __________________ http://www.ittykitty.com

23-02-2007, 18:38	#2
Lodesman Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ottawa ON Canada Boat: 26' trailer sailer (starter) Posts: 1,074	article in YBW - 'Skipper froze to death as we clung to capsized cat'

01-03-2007, 09:51	#8
Ram Commercial Vendor Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cruising Greece Posts: 627	HTML Code: I'd highly doubt that you can UNLOCK the hatch from OUTSIDE rtbates This is true...BUT on my cat and I expect all new cats there is a large RED warning sticker at the excape hatch that says WARNING keep hatch unlocked wile sailing And in fact I never lock mie wile underway, I have wondered why these folks did not open them up & go inside? __________________ Ram www.sailing-charters.org

24-02-2007, 06:53	#11
gonesail Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: north florida st. johns river Boat: caliber 33 jammin Posts: 443	those cats sail nice and level ... but when they go over ... they don't come back up. __________________ When you are on a power boat you have a motor to get you quickly to the place you want to be ... when you are on a sailboat you are already there.

25-02-2007, 10:01	#14
Tnflakbait Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Southern California Boat: CSK, 33' Aita Pe'ape'a Posts: 321	Anyone hear anthing new? Was a drogue or a sea anchor used?

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