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16-07-2009, 19:20
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#166
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Boat: Valiant 50
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Will the real Kevin van Patten please come forward?
One can only presume that KvP's creator has been somewhat disappointed that there haven't been as many toxic posts as he may have expected.
So, I've been trying to figure out who the real Kevin van Patten is.
And I think I know.
Question to mods: Does forum etiquette preclude a guessing competition?
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The light at the end of the tunnel are no longer the headlights of the oncoming train. .....yippee
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17-07-2009, 03:54
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#167
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CF Adviser
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Quote:
Originally Posted by neelie
One can only presume that KvP's creator has been somewhat disappointed that there haven't been as many toxic posts as he may have expected.
So, I've been trying to figure out who the real Kevin van Patten is.
And I think I know.
Question to mods: Does forum etiquette preclude a guessing competition?
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The original poster's last visit was about the middle of page 2 of this thread, so I surmise he's had his fill of this nonsense.
And no, it wouldn't be appropriate to speculate on his identity.
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17-07-2009, 04:29
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#168
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Paris - France
Boat: 1995 - Lagoon 37 - Even Keel
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Eric Lerouge (french cruisingcat designer of Azuli, Freydis,...) considers a cat could be in danger when the average high of waves is larger than the width of the cat.
PS : I own a cat, never experimented a 40'high seas with her but felt (almost  ) secure in 25 to 30' short mediterrannean waves.
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17-07-2009, 05:39
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#169
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Eternal Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Las Brisas Panama AGAIN!
Boat: Simpson, Catamaran, 46ft. IMAGINE
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I would think Eric is a bit off on his calculations. In the Queens Birthday scenario a 40ft. cat survived nearly 100ft. waves. That may not be the case for some cats, but even still that is probably 5 times the width?.....i2f
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17-07-2009, 06:20
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#170
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Eternal Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Las Brisas Panama AGAIN!
Boat: Simpson, Catamaran, 46ft. IMAGINE
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Somewhere is a video of O'VIVE doing nearly 20 knots while kids lounge about reading. One kid actually watching the helm. I can't seem to find the video. The cat is a 50ft. St. Francis...Okay here it is. Tell me this is not safe, and comfortable. Let me see a cruising mono with this abilty & stability. What is not safe about this vessel?...... i2f
YouTube - Ovive sailing fast in the South Pacific
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17-07-2009, 07:16
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#171
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Land Downunder... OZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by imagine2frolic
Somewhere is a video of O'VIVE doing nearly 20 knots while kids lounge about reading. One kid actually watching the helm. I can't seem to find the video. The cat is a 50ft. St. Francis...Okay here it is. Tell me this is not safe, and comfortable. Let me see a cruising mono with this abilty & stability. What is not safe about this vessel?...... i2f
YouTube - Ovive sailing fast in the South Pacific |
Be careful i2f for Joli gunn'a demand those 'race results/cruising logs and sneuman, it's his... 'What bothers me is the wild claims based on no evidence'...tongaboys
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17-07-2009, 08:04
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#172
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Land Downunder... OZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by imagine2frolic
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Thank for the video clip i2f, the screen shots I've included of your video just shows how hard it is at 20 knots... that's 20 knots. Even the young man at the helm can't crack a sweat. Some mono-hullers, well I just give up trying to decipher their hostility in anything better? That's it, we have something better  ...Tongaboys
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17-07-2009, 08:18
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#173
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: No longer post here
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Heck, when the wind is over 20 knots and my boat get's moving, I get a rooster tail where my hull waves meet about 15ft behind the boat. Now that's sailing..
Old hull design, but she's all mine and God help me, I love her...
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17-07-2009, 08:25
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#174
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tropic Cat
Heck, when the wind is over 20 knots and my boat get's moving, I get a rooster tail where my hull waves meet about 15ft behind the boat. Now that's sailing..
Old hull design, but she's all mine and God help me, I love her... |
Tropic Cat you bring a tear to my eyes  ....
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17-07-2009, 08:26
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#175
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Pretty amazing clip that's for sure. I love the calmness of the people on the boat. It's almost as if they are tied to the dock. The shots showing the stability are fantastic. There's a small amount of spray coming from the port bow. Only a fully crewed racing mono with spinnaker up will be duplicating this speed, and doing it white knucled I would imagine? Although water would be washing the decks clean I am sure, and a wee bit of heeling!.... i2f
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17-07-2009, 09:07
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#176
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Chesapeake Bay
Boat: Sabre 28-2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tropic Cat
Heck, when the wind is over 20 knots and my boat get's moving, I get a rooster tail where my hull waves meet about 15ft behind the boat. Now that's sailing..
Old hull design, but she's all mine and God help me, I love her... |
Ok, I'll bite. Tropic Cat, what percentage of the time do you do 20 knots?
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17-07-2009, 09:08
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#177
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Oooo, imagine2frolic you are a gem mate  ...tongaboys
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17-07-2009, 09:13
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#178
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sneuman
Ok, I'll bite. Tropic Cat, what percentage of the time do you do 20 knots?
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What this got to do with anything mate...
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17-07-2009, 09:21
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#179
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Land Downunder... OZ
Boat: Wants to build 42'Horstman Trimaran
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sneuman
Ok, I'll bite. Tropic Cat, what percentage of the time do you do 20 knots?
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I'm biting here mate...
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17-07-2009, 09:27
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#180
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Eternal Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Las Brisas Panama AGAIN!
Boat: Simpson, Catamaran, 46ft. IMAGINE
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Heeling at 80* has got to be a bit uncomfortable, and looked like they were dead in the water too. I have always heard that you lose speed with excessive heeling, but WOW they were dead in the water.
tongaboys,
I was once described as having exuberant humor in my post....possibly it's true? Anyway my point of the O'vive video was to show the safety that comes with flat sailing...... i2f
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