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Old 16-07-2009, 11:06   #151
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I think we should all take a deep breath and recognize how lucky we are to have and to hold the beautiful ladies that take us to sea. To recognize that the next person is bound to feel the same way about his own special lady; and, to try to remember that simple truth before we point out that she might be a little overweight, or a little less agile etc. than our own.

I guess what I am saying is that we should temper our comments and try not to express our opinions as absolutes, especially when they are, or can be taken as a generic slur. Please don't get me wrong, I know that I have been found wanting in that regard as well, from time to time. But ultimately, who knows sin better than the sinner?

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Old 16-07-2009, 11:23   #152
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Old 16-07-2009, 12:47   #153
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I wish I had what you have. As it is, I'm only a sweat equity partner with this boat. Therefore, I can only wish for my own! Be glad for what you do have! There are those of us who wish and dream with no fulfilment in sight and are only left as adulterers, loving another man's mistress!
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LOVING MY MISTRESS?.....I think not. You can go for a ride, but don't love her. That's my job. You can lust for her, but leave me the loving part....oh the shame of it allllllllll........i2f
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Most catamarans are VERY expensive. I am not going to say what I paid for mine. But, there was a new electric version that was shown at most of the major boat shows by the Catamaran Co. It's listed price was something like $435,000 That is just nuts for a 39 foot boat! Yeah, it was VERY nice, but 39 feet!!! 500k!

So yeah, the spare engine and all those amenities do come at a significant cost. But, the original poster asked about safety! And I still contend sailing away from sight of land is inherently less safe than staying on land, even in a destroyer, (especially in an air craft carrier, you should see some of the mortality and injury rates in those things. VERY dangerous!) I still believe it is not that the boat can't take it, it's the crew that can't!

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I just wonder why some people are rude enough to disrespect my choice in my mistress? At least mine has 2 legs
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Now That is funny!
Do you mind if I steal that one for later use?

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Ditto! Out-f*ing-rageous!
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LOVING MY MISTRESS?.....I think not. You can go for a ride, but don't love her. That's my job. You can lust for her, but leave me the loving part....oh the shame of it allllllllll........i2f
You know most people get shot fer that here in Texas, ridin another man's mistress....
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And I still contend sailing away from sight of land is inherently less safe than staying on land, even in a destroyer
Anyone who thinks this has never been to Trenton, New Jersey!
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Agreed. What bothers me is the wild claims based on no evidence, of which there have been plenty here from the pro-catamaran crowd too.
Care to quote some of these "wild claims"?
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SOUTHERN STAR - "And yes, many monohulls tend to give more bang for the buck than many monohulls, especially in the used market"
Obviously you are a politician or ex Polly with that answer again evading the question about the cost of Cats. Not sure about the "Blowing Trumpet" you attributed to me as I did not write such a comment that I could find but again add a bit here and leave out elsewhere.
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As for Cat boat prices... blame yourselves. It's you mono guys who are driving the prices of our boats up...not us. So quit buying so many Catamarans and the prices will level out.
Ah yes, the great catamaran pricing bubble of 2009

Pricing driven to the moon by Irrational exuberance

When will the bubble burst and catamaran prices revert to the mean
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Original Question Answer: Yes, cats can be sailed offshore very safely. This has been clearly proven by thousands of vessels over decades of sailing.


BTW- The war is over and cats have won. Monohullers will continue to convert to cats for the next decade or more, but the trend will not work in the reverse. You will not be seeing a mass exodus of cat owners switching back to monohulls in our lifetimes. The acquisition price for catamarans is the main limitation of a much bigger market shift from monohulls to catamarans. :

Do I like monohulls? Absolutly, I think they are great, but not better than a cat for cruising.
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SOUTHERN STAR - as I have pointed out previously cats are very expensive compared to monohulls. The same arguments about there ++s are given all the time such as they do not sink, more room, sail upright etc. But what about the price?? The silence is deafening! Like a lot of things in life if you have the money then you can buy all sorts of toys and comfort items but the reality for most is a modest income which makes a large difference to most people's thinking. Yes a nice Cat sailing flat with lots of room to party etc would be nice but unaffordable for most and it would be nice if you Cat lovers kept that in mind before blowing your trumpet.
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Meyermm, I have not been 'blowing my trumpet'. I have not suggested that cats are superior to monos with respect to safety, nor even that they are better suited for all sailing conditions, or all sailors. I have only suggested that cats ARE safe for world cruising.
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SOUTHERN STAR - Not sure about the "Blowing Trumpet" you attributed to me as I did not write such a comment that I could find but again add a bit here and leave out elsewhere.
Southern Star composed a gracious post wherein he made a valiant effort to calm the waters and get this lame thread back on track. If it is your intention to slap away the hand of friendship that was extended to you because you wish to keep the battle raging, this thread can easily be closed. Perhaps it should be anyway, as nothing useful to the OP has been posted in quite awhile and he seems to have wandered off somewhere anyway.

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