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Griloboat · 12-09-2012, 09:29

I am looking to buy a CAT until US $ 300.000 in cash. Ideally not from charters once I plan to live aboard with my family. The more options ( AC, watermaker, eletric whinch, etc...) the better.

Ideally from 2005....

Leopard, Lagoon, Fountaine Pajot *are my favorities.

Where: in the US south East or anywhere in the Caribbean.

Many thanks, Luciano

belizesailor · 12-09-2012, 09:33

Absolutely. Take a look at brokerage listings.

I also suggest adding Privilege to that list. Rock solid build, good sailing performance, and quite a few on the used market.

jostalli · 12-09-2012, 09:51

I would open up your search to include charter versions as there are many more to choose from. Non charter cats are scarce and usually carry a high premium in comparison to the charter cats. If the charter boats scare you then just look for one that is only a few years old. There are plenty of newer Lagoon 400's that you could definitely buy for $300k cash.

Griloboat · 12-09-2012, 09:53

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Originally Posted by jostalli

I would open up your search to include charter versions as there are many more to choose from. Non charter cats are scarce and usually carry a high premium in comparison to the charter cats. If the charter boats scare you then just look for one that is only a few years old. There are plenty of newer Lagoon 400's that you could definitely buy for $300k cash.

Tks. My concern is that I would have to buy a 250 k and use 50 K for upgrades.. Buying a Lagoon 40's at 300 K would mean more imvestments in eletronics, generator, etc, etc...

jostalli · 12-09-2012, 09:58

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Originally Posted by Griloboat

Tks. My concern is that I would have to buy a 250 k and use 50 K for upgrades.. Buying a Lagoon 40's at 300 K would mean more imvestments in eletronics, generator, etc, etc...

You would probably have to put money in a non charter boat as well. How can you expect the previous owner to have all the equipment you need? There are few true "turn key" boats.

FLLCatsailor · 12-09-2012, 11:31

There is a really nice Leopard 40 3 cabin version never chartered. The ask on it is 309k.

PM if you want some more information

ausaviator · 12-09-2012, 20:12

You could easily get hold of a Fountaine Pajot Lavezzi 40 and fit a host of upgrades for $300k total and end up with a very nice vessel.

JerseyMermaid · 12-09-2012, 20:51

God I'm so glad to read this thread. We too are hunting hunting for a cat in The same size/price range. I'm struggling with Lagoons bc I hate the "corner" galley. Leopards appear to have a better design there. Antares is by far my favorite layout, especially with the split level galley and more counter space to make a proper meal. We are wanting to live aboard so kitchen space is important to me. However, finding an Antares used/under 600K is proving near impossible. Leopard was the best compromise I could find but I'm happy to hear about the Privileges. Didn't know if their quality was good.

I too prefer the owners versions and not 4 berth charters. Sigh!

Always reading, always learning from all you wonderfully wise sailors! Thanks!

~Danielle

**Ex-Calif** · 12-09-2012, 21:03

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Originally Posted by Griloboat

Tks. My concern is that I would have to buy a 250 k and use 50 K for upgrades.. Buying a Lagoon 40's at 300 K would mean more imvestments in eletronics, generator, etc, etc...

Welcome aboard!

The thing is owners versions are rarer, command a higher price and if the previous owner put all those things in that you want the price is likely even higher.

Probably no such thing as a free lunch. Start at $250 and leave room for mods. Then the mods stuff is all new. That is sorta where I am headed.

PS - And I might get slammed for this - Some owners (with money) have had extensive one-off systems installed. Depending on the systems and installations these can be a boon or a nightmare.

Richard5 · 13-09-2012, 02:43

Just the other day I purviewed various listings for cats <$300K. In fact, I was surprised by the number of listings of 40-47' cats, many around mid-$200K or slightly less. I won't be ready to buy until next year but I would be all over Gary's Mayotte down in Panama.

Griloboat · 13-09-2012, 18:03

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Originally Posted by JerseyMermaid

God I'm so glad to read this thread. We too are hunting hunting for a cat in The same size/price range. I'm struggling with Lagoons bc I hate the "corner" galley. Leopards appear to have a better design there. Antares is by far my favorite layout, especially with the split level galley and more counter space to make a proper meal. We are wanting to live aboard so kitchen space is important to me. However, finding an Antares used/under 600K is proving near impossible. Leopard was the best compromise I could find but I'm happy to hear about the Privileges. Didn't know if their quality was good.

I too prefer the owners versions and not 4 berth charters. Sigh!

Always reading, always learning from all you wonderfully wise sailors! Thanks!

~Danielle

The problem is when you are at 300 K you also look for the 400's K as well... And it goes, and goes,...

. I was one week in a F. Pajout Orana 44 and I liked it a lot ! A used one I could find a 2007 for 300 K , but would have to spend another 50 K in eletronics, safety, generator, etc.... I am even not sure if 50 K would be enough... But anyway, I think my plan B is to get a 300k good one and have 50K as a contigency..

belizesailor · 13-09-2012, 21:23

Keep in mind too that all those additional goodies are not actually necessary. Nice, but not necessary. And, you could spread them out over a few seasons, if that is any help in your financial situation -- for example, pay for them as you have income available rather than out of the piggy bank right up front.

...but then of course a 40+ foot catamaran is not exactly a necessity either...

ausaviator · 13-09-2012, 21:24

belizesailor, you need some serious education my friend

You need to understand the difference between WANT and NEED

jostalli · 13-09-2012, 21:36

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Originally Posted by Griloboat

Tks. My concern is that I would have to buy a 250 k and use 50 K for upgrades.. Buying a Lagoon 40's at 300 K would mean more imvestments in eletronics, generator, etc, etc...

So negotiate and buy for $250k. Can't hurt to make some offers.

quartersplash · 20-09-2012, 05:21

Hi, This is Gary in Panama that Richard5 refered to above with the 47 Mayotte Voyage. She is still available, but have a very interested person coming next week to do sea trials. If you are interested, please send me a private email at garyswenson@hotmail.com asap and we can discuss. Also you could send your phone number and I can call you. If you put Mayotte in the seach window on this site you can open my thread with info on my cat.
Gary