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16-01-2013, 12:16
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Location: sausalito
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Re: Is a screecher worth it?
I tend to think that Code Zero sails have made screechers obsolete.
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16-01-2013, 14:06
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hervey Bay, Queensland
Boat: Spirited 380 Catamaran
Posts: 91
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Re: Is a screecher worth it?
I have both a assymetrical spinnaker and a permanently mounted screecher. Both sheet back to a double block towards the stern of our cat. We use the screecher a lot, far more than the kite, as it is set up and ready to go while the kite takes a bit of time to set up. If we are running for long periods with the wind aft of the beam we would pull out the kite, otherwise its the screecher.
The spinnker tack is about 300mm forward of the screecher tack.
Peter
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16-01-2013, 14:12
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Cat in New Zealand, trawler in Ventura
Boat: 46' custom cat "Rum Doxy", Roughwater 41"Abreojos"
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Re: Is a screecher worth it?
Angus,
We have a symmetrical spinnaker and a code 0 which works well for us. I am able to use the same sheets and blocks for both sails and I imagine you could easily have a sail cut so that you too could use the spinnaker blocks for a screacher. The code 0 was $1200, the Colligo furler was $700 on ebay but retail was around $1400. You already have the prodder so in boat terms it shouldn't be too expensive.
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16-01-2013, 16:28
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: some ocean down under
Boat: Kelsall Suncat 40
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Re: Is a screecher worth it?
We also have both a screacher and an asym kite. The screacher is used much much more than the asym. It is our favourite sail and we wouldn't leave port without it! Both sails share the same sheets and deck hardware.
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16-01-2013, 18:36
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Caribbean live aboard
Boat: Camper & Nicholson58 Ketch - ROXY Traverse City, Michigan No.668283
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Re: Is a screecher worth it?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tar34
Pay particular attention to the end of the pole, adjustments determine how the screecher will respond.
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I've always found that if things get a bit too slow you just poke it up for speed.
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16-01-2013, 21:33
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 482
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Re: Is a screecher worth it?
I have just added a prod to our leopard 47.i went to the north sail loft and had a meeting with their design guy. They made me a 111 square meter screetcher out of code zero grey soft norlam. I bought a profurl nex 5 furler. I am still to test it and will let you know what I think
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17-01-2013, 06:11
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 15
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Re: Is a screecher worth it?
Thankyou everybody for your responses. Spiritcat , that is what I was wondering about(whether or not I would be able to run the spiny separate). Do you have two halyards above your headsail? I'll make a call to a sailmaker or two i think.
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17-01-2013, 11:20
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 482
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Re: Is a screecher worth it?
I have a spiny halyard and a 2-1 halyard for the screetcher. I spent 10 hrs in the bosuns chair !
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17-01-2013, 12:24
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 302
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Re: Is a screecher worth it?
Profurl Spin 2.5
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17-01-2013, 14:30
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hervey Bay, Queensland
Boat: Spirited 380 Catamaran
Posts: 91
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Re: Is a screecher worth it?
I have the screecher set above the genoa on a 2:1 halyard (halyard tension needs to be tight) and the spinnaker above that again. The sailmaker will need to take all the dimensions on the boat before making the sail.
Prior to building our 380, we had a 28' Simpson Backslash and only had a single spinnaker halyard. We raced that cat a lot and had it set up so that we could swap from screecher to spinnaker very quickley by utilising the same halyard and same sheets, drop one on the deck and hoist the other. The prodder was set up to take both sails at the same time with the spinnaker tack forward of the screecher furler.
Peter
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17-01-2013, 15:11
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Caribbean live aboard
Boat: Camper & Nicholson58 Ketch - ROXY Traverse City, Michigan No.668283
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Re: Is a screecher worth it?
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Originally Posted by chris smith
I have just added a prod to our leopard 47.i went to the north sail loft and had a meeting with their design guy. They made me a 111 square meter screetcher out of code zero grey soft norlam. I bought a profurl nex 5 furler. I am still to test it and will let you know what I think
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my screecher performs better in mink.
Kidding aside, I raced a Heritage One-Ton for many years. It was an old IOR design with nipped in stern, wide beam, high aspect. As technology overtook us with progressively lighter boats, we compensated with an inventory of light air sails. This was impressively successful. We had 5 #1 genoas do carry us from 0 to 22 apparent. The light air sail was a high clew ripstop nylon 3/4 ouce. It could easily be packed in a bowling bag. We also has a steel luff high-cut staysail we flew with 1/8 inch line by hand. Most of the light boats didn't think they needed light inventory. We often clobered them. Point is, if you want to sail in light air you need the hardware. The good news is that it lasts a very long time and stores easily in small bags and is easy to rig quickly. I would suggest used as a definite posibility. Often forgotten today is a Blooper, another easy to handle niche sail.
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20-01-2013, 15:04
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Boat: Arber 14m Sou'easter
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Re: Is a screecher worth it?
I have both a asymmetric and a screecher - they are sheeted differently -screecher doesnt come all the way back to the stern but that prob would depend on size of sail too...
Both are useful ...the screecher takes careful setting up tho.initially we had it on a 2;1 halyard but kept getting twists in the halyard in the hoist and found it difficult to get proper tension on the luff - which is essential for a good furl - so now we use the gennaker halyard (1:1) and it has solved the problem....
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20-01-2013, 17:25
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Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Vancouver, BC
Boat: Niagara 35
Posts: 1,878
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What's the difference between a code zero and a screacher?
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20-01-2013, 20:56
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Western Australia
Boat: between boats
Posts: 1,022
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Re: Is a screecher worth it?
a code zero has a deeper and fuller cut than a screecher and so cant be flown quite as high as the screecher basically. For any half decent cats the screecher defo has a role to play as the apparent wind gets further forward especially in lighter airs.
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03-09-2013, 07:29
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Winston Salem, nc
Boat: Morgan 382
Posts: 4
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Re: Is a screecher worth it?
Hey Overlord,
How did that custom code zero work out? I just bought 04 LP47 and am spending the next few months reffitting her before circumnavigation. That sounds alot like a mod i had in mind.
cheers,
Tyler
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