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Old 16-02-2013, 14:13   #1
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Impressive Team USA Sailing



Mind you for a team called team USA - didn't hear any USA voices. But I suppose the most important man in the team is American, Larry Ellison, so that is really what counts!
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Old 16-02-2013, 16:20   #2
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Holy Crap! I was so fortunate in that my company built the master patterns for the mast for Oracle when she faced off against Alinghi back in Feb 14, 2010. I like sailing and all that but I would wet my skivvies, because at 63 my bones don't heal so quickly. Wow! What a ride. Things have come a long way since I was designing boats (with a pencil and mylar, mind you).
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Old 16-02-2013, 16:46   #3
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didn't hear any USA voices. [/SIZE]
Those boys come from that very compliant state of the USA situated SSW of California! No, not New Zealand.
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Yeah, mainly Australian and Kiwi and a couple of yanks, with a dutchman and a frenchman thrown in.
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Old 17-02-2013, 19:59   #5
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Notice that there are not any waves. These boats cannot handle any waves over 3ft high or they flip.... In The last Americas Cup 2 races were called off because of winds at 16mph and 14mph! This was after both teams petitioned to have Generators installed because they could not sheet in the sails with muscles alone. The whole thing is a joke just to promote corporate bullshit. Some of the hero worship revolving around this crap is nauseating PUUUUUUUKKE
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Re: Impressive Team USA Sailing

Does this tri must have foils on the the keels????
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Notice that there are not any waves. These boats cannot handle any waves over 3ft high or they flip.... In The last Americas Cup 2 races were called off because of winds at 16mph and 14mph! This was after both teams petitioned to have Generators installed because they could not sheet in the sails with muscles alone. The whole thing is a joke just to promote corporate bullshit. Some of the hero worship revolving around this crap is nauseating PUUUUUUUKKE
Well said, me too UUUEAHHH...
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Old 18-02-2013, 01:18   #8
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Notice that there are not any waves. These boats cannot handle any waves over 3ft high or they flip.... In The last Americas Cup 2 races were called off because of winds at 16mph and 14mph! This was after both teams petitioned to have Generators installed because they could not sheet in the sails with muscles alone. The whole thing is a joke just to promote corporate bullshit. Some of the hero worship revolving around this crap is nauseating PUUUUUUUKKE
This is not cruising, George.

Criticising these boats for their lack of rough water capability is parallel to rubbishing Formula One cars because they can't go over curbs and carry golf bags.

This is cutting edge technology used for specialised and spectacular racing. I'm glad that it is being promoted using all the marketing tricks and bullshit. That way more people will be engaged, more sponsors and more money will be attracted and the sport will flourish. With the research and development that race boats demand, sometime, somewhere that technology will flow on to me in better, safer and (hopefully?) cheaper products for my cruising boat.

Just selfish I guess.
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Old 18-02-2013, 02:39   #9
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yeah, yawn, sailrocket bores the crap outta me too.

NOT !

even watching the video makes me feel a bit like my then 6 y.o. son after his first sailing outing in 20kn on our little laser 2
me: "was it fun?"
rexy: "freaky, fast, freaky, fast"
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Notice that there are not any waves. These boats cannot handle any waves over 3ft high or they flip.... In The last Americas Cup 2 races were called off because of winds at 16mph and 14mph! This was after both teams petitioned to have Generators installed because they could not sheet in the sails with muscles alone. The whole thing is a joke just to promote corporate bullshit. Some of the hero worship revolving around this crap is nauseating PUUUUUUUKKE
This was true, it isn't anymore. The AC 72's are designed to race in anything up to 35kn true wind speed, and be able to sail in that in open water. These are not fragile, just very very fast. Below is some video from team New Zealand going 15 miles offshore out in 30kn of breeze, as they push the boat to over 40kn boat speed in those conditions.
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Seeing this footage gives me hope that the 72s will bring back some of the spectacle of the cup that went missing with the 40s. Size does matter.
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This is not cruising, George.

Criticising these boats for their lack of rough water capability is parallel to rubbishing Formula One cars because they can't go over curbs and carry golf bags.

This is cutting edge technology used for specialised and spectacular racing. I'm glad that it is being promoted using all the marketing tricks and bullshit. That way more people will be engaged, more sponsors and more money will be attracted and the sport will flourish. With the research and development that race boats demand, sometime, somewhere that technology will flow on to me in better, safer and (hopefully?) cheaper products for my cruising boat.

Just selfish I guess.
Well said, I agree 100%. I was just in SF and saw the 72 out practicing, amazing boat.
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Yup. That about sums up the whole ridiculous waste of space called the Americas Cup these days. Disgusting example of how a race where real men used to compete, can be hijacked by $$$$$$$$$$$$$.

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Brogan you clearly have no idea what it takes to sail one of these boats. Not only are they expected to race in. Conditions most sailors wouldn't leave the dock in, they do it at speeds most sailers will never see. Plus they race the 70 foot monsters with fewer people than a J-30 would carry. More is expected from the guys sailing the new AC boat than at any point in history.
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Yup. That about sums up the whole ridiculous waste of space called the Americas Cup these days. Disgusting example of how a race where real men used to compete, can be hijacked by $$$$$$$$$$$$$.
What are you talking about the 1800's? The Americas Cup has been hijacked by $$$$ for years. Only diffrence now is there's real men and real boats. Finally something thrilling to watch.
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