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Old 05-09-2011, 16:18   #736
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It's technically illegal to live permanently on your boat in most Australian States anyway... so I doubt this would work. I wish it would though as it could help me out too!
I don't think it's illegal if you're a full time cruiser and keep moving.
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I don't think it's illegal if you're a full time cruiser and keep moving.
Definitely not illegal! I put my financial situation as a retired person living onboard to Centrelink. The response was that they would even give rent assistance while living in marinas!

So you have me thinking about claiming back the GST on my "residence" when I get it back to Australia! Worth a try!!
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Old 05-09-2011, 17:09   #738
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Re: Importing a Boat to Australia

OK... I knew this would happen. Personally I know that it's very possible to live aboard, but alas, it is technically illegal (here it is for NSW... I'm too busy to look it up for VIC and QLD) NSW Legislation all I was saying is that since it is illegal on the books, I doubted whether the Tax Office would condone it as a residence.

Obviously Jamels experience with Centerlink say's otherwise... which is awesome in my opinion
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Re: Importing a Boat to Australia

had this once when we registered a car in NZ, put on the form as our address, "Yacht Archer, Berth C20, Nelson Marina" Lady at Post Office said that wasn't accepatble and didnt I have an address I could just use, I said No the Yacht is our Home and to put anything else would be lying and did she really want me to lie on an official form. she scurried out the back and spoke to her boss and then came back and said that would be fine.
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OK... I knew this would happen. Personally I know that it's very possible to live aboard, but alas, it is technically illegal (here it is for NSW... I'm too busy to look it up for VIC and QLD) NSW Legislation all I was saying is that since it is illegal on the books, I doubted whether the Tax Office would condone it as a residence.

Obviously Jamels experience with Centerlink say's otherwise... which is awesome in my opinion


Yeah, totally! Unlike what most people think (Big Brother is watching you), government departments are not always liasing or sharing databases with each other (the one proviso is the ATO doing an audit on you). In NSW it is illegal to live aboard and NSW Maritime is the government department (supposedly) enforcing that. But Centrelink don't 'know' it's illegal or really care, actually - hence Jamel's experience. In reality, there are many people living aboard permanently in NSW, they just have to smart about it and move around periodically. In QLD, it is legal to live aboard; not sure about other states?
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So without wanting to nosey your private details can you confirm that in my case I will be up for GST as follows: Cost of boat (US built) $165,000,
delivery $1000 from last port New Cal. Total assesed for GST=$166,000

Therefore, GST @10% = $16600.00, correct?
GST on $166,000-00 = $$16,600-00

Total = $182,600-00
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Old 05-09-2011, 23:21   #742
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Cost then Import Duty of 5% first, then GST applied.
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Old 05-09-2011, 23:27   #743
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Correctamundo.

$166,000 + $8,300 duty + $17,430 GST = $191,730 total

This calculation makes no allowance for delivery charges.
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So without wanting to nosey your private details can you confirm that in my case I will be up for GST as follows: Cost of boat (US built) $165,000,
delivery $1000 from last port New Cal. Total assesed for GST=$166,000

Therefore, GST @10% = $16600.00, correct?
I believe that is correct.
Interestingly I had to challenge my customs agent on a few points like paying GST on charts that I had bought in Aust with GST added.
I also signed on as Captain for the Noumea to Bundaberg leg and officially imported the boat myself.
Customs were OK with that.
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Yeah, totally! Unlike what most people think (Big Brother is watching you), government departments are not always liasing or sharing databases with each other (the one proviso is the ATO doing an audit on you). In NSW it is illegal to live aboard and NSW Maritime is the government department (supposedly) enforcing that. But Centrelink don't 'know' it's illegal or really care, actually - hence Jamel's experience. In reality, there are many people living aboard permanently in NSW, they just have to smart about it and move around periodically. In QLD, it is legal to live aboard; not sure about other states?
Exactly Centerlink is Federal dept and Waterways is state so in theory they don't traditionally cross match data bases, but this is changing and one day it may happen.
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Correctamundo.

$166,000 + $8,300 duty + $17,430 GST = $191,730 total

This calculation makes no allowance for delivery charges.
No duty on an American built boat due to trade agreement, just GST on cost of boat plus delivery charges
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Re: Importing a Boat to Australia

he did state US built , therefore no duty payable

as far as GST , its payable on everything, including your own home
maybe some people are getting confused with CGT capital gains tax which isn't payable on your own home. GST is payed on all goods and services imported or supplied in Australia including building materials, supplies Trade labor etc.
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Staying on a boat in NSW...

I had a quick read through the Legislation and, having no legal expertise whatsoever, could not find the section that prohibited living on a boat.

I did find a section that authorised the use of a houseboat.

My understanding is that one may anchor for up to 3 days in any one location. The total days that one can stay on an anchored boat is limited (I have a murky recollection of 90 - probably wrong...).

It could be possible that there is confusion between living, which implies a permanent, immobile residence, and staying, which implies an impermanent, mobile, habitation.

I would expect that, if one were visited by Waterways officers, that raising the anchor and proceeding to another location would greatly lessen any concerns that they may have. Having a boat registered to a shoreside address where one is contactable would also be desirable.

From time to time I see boats anchored in Sydney Harbour that clearly have people staying on them. There used to be a few houseboats but these seem to have gone now. Other than that I do not recall ever seeing any boat with persons clearly living on board.
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I'm heading to France Friday to go to some boat shows (La Rochelle) and check out some second hand Lagoon 380's as well. Most of the info in this thread has been great for researching, especially first hand experiences. Thanks and keep it up!
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Australia is a nice place and it is deserving to import a boat there, when it comes to business matter there's no problem about that.
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