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View Poll Results: Which type of catamarans would you choose, price not an object
Admiral 5 1.81%
BroadBlue 18 6.52%
Catana 62 22.46%
Dean 4 1.45%
Privilege 29 10.51%
Lagoon 55 19.93%
St Francis 25 9.06%
African Cats 24 8.70%
PDQ 26 9.42%
Voyage 9 3.26%
Manta 25 9.06%
Leapord 41 14.86%
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Old 05-06-2007, 18:40   #76
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Old 05-06-2007, 18:46   #77
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Sure!!

Depends on make and model of boat.
Of course. If my budget were 200k, I would be looking FP venezia or Cassamance. If my budget were 400k, I would be looking Outremer 50.
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Old 07-06-2007, 05:55   #78
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Gunboat 62, Petter or the Corsair 50 is looking promising.
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Old 07-06-2007, 13:34   #79
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I keep watching this Poll Result and find it interesting to see that we are not a model T Ford , black only crowd. Everyone has their own reason to buy that dream boat, new or used that will put them in that blue water, sandy beach, or hidden harbor somewhere.
I already voted and I am a dagger board kind of guy. And I would buy used. Having been in my younger days a Evenrude and OMC mechanic and now a building Contractor for the last 20years, I feel I could judge a boat well enough along with a surveyor to choose a boat in good condition, safe for my wife and I to cruise around the world once or twice if we so desired.
We live and weekend cruise now in the Fl. Keys with extended trip when we can get away to the Tortugas, Everglades, and to Marco Island.
Want to go to the Bahamas but feel a boat with enough water and fuel is needed so we can stay put for awhile. Also Cancun is 2 1/2 to 3 days away. What a great jump off point right here in my back yard.
I thought I was in a good position to buy that dream boat about 4 months ago and go for the 6 months cruising, 6 months RVing life style but work wise tells me to wait and make that boat kitty a little bigger. We now see another 18 to 24month. Until than I have my eyes open and who knows, I just might get that used 431 I have been dreaming about after all.

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Old 07-06-2007, 14:57   #80
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I'm new and don't yet have the knowledge to pick 1 cat even if the price didn't matter. But in my quest for a monohull sailboat I have been persuaded to look at multihulls for sure after reading sooo much on this site. I searched all cat companies listed and the $$$ price tags. There are many advantages, options, and layout configurations to be considered. I'm guessing manufacture techniques and hull layup are priced accordingly to cost. I've found one cat in my part of the word my other half and I will be viewing this weekend. This is the link to the cat 2006 Performance Cruising Gemini 105Mc sailboat for sale in Outside United States am i to understand this is not a real blue water cruiser, as the price is very low compared to many other listed. Is this cat company making sort of half-assed put together and way down the scale boats compared to the higher priced cats? I know this may sound stupid question, but I have never been on a cat nor seen inside one. Still selling the powerboat and activley looking for my first sailboat, and any pointers would be nice. I like the Lagoon's best.
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The Gemini is actually a nicely performing, relatively inexpensive cat designed for protected waters and coastal cruising not too far from a hidey-hole when things get rough. Their bridgedeck clearance is to low for comfort in rough weather and they aren't what I would call sea-kindly. The single engine with outdrive doesn't allow quite the ease of maneuvering that twin engine cats can do, but neither does it have the weight penalty, either.

If you're looking for a daysailor/week-ender with some space and comfort for not too much money, then the Gemini has many positives going for it. Having sailed one, I can tell you that they are easy to sail and you can get surprisingly good performance out of them. Lifting the drive leg takes the drag out of the water and their screecher system allows great flexibility in your point of sail in lighter winds. They have enough room and good enough ergonomics such that spending several days on one is certainly feasible.

The other boats typically discussed on these pages are a different breed of cat than the Gemini.

As to quality of construction, Performance Cruising does make a lot of them and I imagine their margins are thinner than with the more expensive cruising boats. As with any boat, things are going to break and preventive maintenance is a must.

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Old 22-06-2007, 12:12   #82
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This is a great thread for those of us who don't yet own a boat.

My goal as far as boats go is probably a leopard 46, although if money was no concern I'd probably upgrade to gunboat 62, with leisure furl or other quality reefing system, auto pilot, water maker, diesel-electric with solar panels, water and wind turbines and any other regenerative power system.

Main thing though is the toys. Gotta have plenty of scuba gear including a set of evolution rebreathers, some sort of micro-ROV (www.seabotix.com), deep sea fishing gear including livewell, large RIB dinghy with steering wheel, surf boards, kite boards, wind surfing boards, kayaks, forward looking sonar, side imaging sonar, satellite phones and modems, sat tv, maybe a ship-wide computer system that calls me "Dave".

A couple of these electric foldable bikes, for time spent at the dock:
Birdy Bionx electric powered folding bike

Plenty of freezer space for steaks. Plenty of fridge space for beer.

Oh and lots of guns, maybe some sort of deck mounted harpoon.

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P.S. Did I leave anything out?
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Oh I forgot one thing, my dream boat needs about 10 KW of underwater lighting, an especiall large concentration at the back and underneath the trampoline. I want to be able to see at least 100 yards underwater at night.
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You’ll be very unlikely to achieve a throw of 300 feet, unless your 10 kW of underwater lighting is from a single point source.
Merely increasing total wattage by adding more and more light sources, will not increase your viewing distance at all.

The Inverse-Square Law (1), Absorption (2), and Reflextion (3) phenomenon limit the distance light will travel.

(1) The intensity of light observed from a source of constant intrinsic luminosity falls off as the square of the distance from the object.

(2) The greater the distance light has to travel through water, the more color will be absorbed. Water absorbs the wavelengths of light selectively, one by one as the distance (from the source) increases. Water absorbs light at the red end of the spectrum more strongly than it absorbs light at the blue end. Though exact absorption rates will vary depending upon water conditions, you can assume that red will disappear at a distance of around 15 to 20 feet, orange at between 25 to 30 feet, yellow at 45 to 60 feet, green at 70 feet and at 100 feet, everything will appear blue or grayish green. At extreme distances all the light will be absorbed and everything will appear deep blue or black.

(3) The "dirt" in turbid water consists of suspended particles in the water column that hamper light penetration. When using a light source in particle-laden water, you will often experience "back scatter" or a "snowstorm" effect. This is caused by light reflecting off the suspended particles, and is analogous to that of trying to use full-beam headlights when driving in fog.
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I've just built in some underwater lights - into my rudders. I used multi LED's so they wont be all that powerful, but they will draw virtually no current either, so I can leave them on all night if I want. I don't want to light up acres, I just want to attract bait fish, prawns and squid, to the area between the hulls. I've done it before with just a handheld torch, so the permanent underwater lights should work fine for that. Good thing about them being in the rudders is, I can swing them up for cleaning any time, and I can actually move them, just by moving the steering.
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I'd be real keen to know how you did that 44CC.

I saw these About Aqualuma - The Underwater Lighting Specialists in a game boat in Vanuatu recently and tracked them down in Oz, but had a stroke at the price.

I just love me chilli and salt and pepper squid. They tell me their good bait, but all our's have been eaten.

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I've just built in some underwater lights - into my rudders. ... I just want to attract bait fish, prawns and squid, to the area between the hulls.
Genius man. That aught to be a lot of fun, it works well? You've always got a cloud of bait fish under your boat at 5am? I will remember that one.

Do you have a livewell?
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I'd be real keen to know how you did that 44CC.

I saw these About Aqualuma - The Underwater Lighting Specialists in a game boat in Vanuatu recently and tracked them down in Oz, but had a stroke at the price.

I just love me chilli and salt and pepper squid. They tell me their good bait, but all our's have been eaten.

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These gave me the idea. But like you, the price gave me a heart attack.

Also, all the hull area below the waterline aft of the rear beam is now fully enclosed in watertight compartments, so I didn't have access.

But I hadn't built the rudders yet, so I got the idea of putting lights in them. The bonus is, with kick up rudders I can lift them out of the water at any time too. I just got some 12 volt LED downlight bulbs, (blue and white ones) cut holes in the rudder skins, and resined the LED's into them. Lead the wire up the rudder shaft, and Bob's your uncle!

When I get the chance I'll take some pics.

zardinuk, I haven't launched the boat yet, but I'm confident they will work well enough. The probably won't be as bright as the aqualuma ones, but it doesn't take much to attract a few fish.
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SOme photo's of the LED lights in the rudders:

http://www.cruisersforum.com/gallery...00&userid=3477

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Taken in daylight. The lights are pretty bright at night.
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