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Old 15-10-2007, 14:47   #1
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Is there any F31 lovers out there? One day I will own a 31 or 33 or 36 foot ! I sailed on the 27 footer and that was a nice size but I would like something bigger but trailerable! I like the speed with these boats I also like the lines and how it sits in the water!
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Old 16-10-2007, 14:41   #2
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I own a Farrier 720 (homebuilt by myself) and a Leopard40. I crassed the Atlantic in 1996 on a Farrier 36. I felt very safe on the Farrier 36, but found it to be wet and damp, sitting so low on the water. The Leopard40 is a dry boat.
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Old 16-10-2007, 21:28   #3
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I just sold my F27 after 20 years (hull #17), and will take delivery of a Leopard 40 in Feb 08.
I almost moved up to the F31 when they first came out since the F27 started to feel smaller. I didn't get it because it would have been such a beating in the ratings for racing.
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Ah!...the Farrier/Corsairs...i was considering a 31 but found out about the gemini 105 also very small draft numbers...so i am tortured between the Corsair 31 speed and the gemini accomodations...and to add to the confusion ;they both are in the same price range...
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If you have the option of dry sailing, the cost savings per month would be a serious cost saving for the F31. Whether trailered and/or sailed, your cruising grounds would be much more expansive with the F31.
I don't see these boats as having much in common at all. They are so different, other than shallow draft and more than one hull.
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Pardon my ignorance Robert, but; what is dry sailing ? I am mostly french speaking ...and new to the sport.......
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Old 20-10-2007, 06:45   #7
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DRY sailing means puting the boat on a trailer after each sail, nence keeping it dry. In australia many of the yacht clubs have hard stand areas that allow owners to recover their boat to a trailer but leave it rigged - mast up etc. Dry sailing is usually well cheaper than a marina berth and there are no anitfouling costs as well.
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I thought "dry sailing" meant having no beers on the boat.
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Old 20-10-2007, 10:12   #9
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Again... pardon my ignorance but; what is " beers " ?...... ;-)
Uh ...i am new to this ...sport ....
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Old 21-10-2007, 05:22   #11
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Funny how different things mean different things in other part of the wold.

If I have a dry sail it means no spray comming into the cotpit.

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OK ..OK..I knew what "beers" meant...i was trying to be funny....

But , That does not solves my dilemna; do i go with the fast and practical Farrier/Corsair 31 or the slower , heavier , but roomier Gemini 105 ?

I will be sailing the St-lawrence river here in Canada...no offshore sailing there.

I know one is a Porsche ,the other a Volvo...each having their own advantages i guess...
One has a simple outboard engine , the other a buried into the hull diesel ...
One has a great view from the saloon and the "beers fridge" ...you could have friends aboard and not being pissed of each other after 5 minutes ...
Not so much with the Corsair but; who wants passengers sitting in the back of the Porsche?
I used to race motorcycles so; i am drawn by the sporty 31.
I also liked the relaxing atmosphere of the paddocks after the rush of racing...

Go figure...
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I would say closer one is a Porsche and the other is minivan or station wagon. But it is still not a good analogy. Both are transportation, but your question is not which boat is better, but what do you want to do with it?
Comfortable cruising close to home?
Fast (read exciting sailing) cruising, with somewhat less comfort, but with a considerable larger range?

Other questions include:
Assuming your usual sailing will be a two or three day weekend, are there lots of very interesting or nice places to go nearby? Are there lots of more interesting place a bit further away?
Do you haul the boat every winter? The F31 makes this a simple matter.
Do you mind motoring? The F31 would be so much faster in light wind, and pointing upwind that you will not need (or want) to motor as much.
How many people do you plan to have with you most of the time?
How long do you plan to spend on the boat?
Do you have access to a vehicle which could tow an F31?

With my F27 (Three Play), a typical summer sail on San Francisco Bay (well known for strong summer winds) a day sail would be travelling at 8-13 knots (6-15 knots less often). This was without using a spinnaker, and single or doublehanded. Of course crashing through the waves it was soaking wet, but it would takes two days to wipe off the smile. It was especially fun passing the big racing boats with full crew on a spinnaker reach, upwind, when I was singlehanding, drinking coffee (13-15 knots to their 8-9).
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Ok then...let me rephrase that.
The Gemini would be a Harley Davidson and the Farrier a Ducati superbike ...one is black, the other is red...
Hey C.spots...thanks for the input.
I'll have the boat out of the water every winter of course ,so; i like the trailerable/foldable option that's for sure...and yes ; i could tow the thing , thanks for reminding me.
And like you said, the 31 is better under every wind conditions...which translate to more fun i suppose...i sense you enjoyed yours greatly...
You are whipping the cream in favor of the Farrier ...this is what i want to hear; biased opinions...
You know what; i just found out that the Precourt System Farrier specialist lives right next door ...
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C'mon-C.Spots is Right-Go for the faster boat!!!!
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