I just bought my first cat

cat480 · 07-04-2008, 09:44

I have been reading posts for several years and the information has been invaluable in helping me to narrow down my wish list. I finally found our boat in South Africa. It is a new Angelo Lavranos 47' er. Built by Knysna Yacht Co. in Knysna South Africa. It scores the highest on my wish list of all the boats on my list( read affordable boats) Galley up, mini keels, flat decks, 6'5" headroom. Large secure cockpit with bulkhead steering I would be happy to share info with any interested parties. I am located in the S.F. area. Tim

Southern Star · 07-04-2008, 10:04

Congrats Tim- she sounds fabulous (and Lavranos has a very solid reputation). Looking forward to your imput in future.

Brad

imagine2frolic · 07-04-2008, 10:24

HELLO TIM,

In April of 92 I went for a day sail on Adventure Cat for the third year in a row on my birthday. Hanse knew I sailed the bay regularly, so he was brave enough to give me the wheel coming down the city front, and then turning for Angel Island. I looked off to the sterns, and glanced at the small rooster tails. The knot meter reading 18.5. I smiled at Hanse, and declared to him that when I grow up I would buy a cat too. 10 years later I did it, and have no regrets. Enjoy your new boat, and where will you start sailing her?

cat480 · 07-04-2008, 11:32

I will be taking delivery at the Miami boat show next Feb. We will slowly make our way back to the West Coast and probably settle in Puerto Vallarta. I can't handle the cold weather the way I used to. I forgot to mention that it is also foam core including bulkheads , floors and furniture. Tim

fastcat435 · 07-04-2008, 13:32

Hallo Tim

I was not able to find the boat on the internet please share the new design with me and tell me where to find this cat

Greetings

Gideon

imagine2frolic · 07-04-2008, 13:44

From Panama to P.V.? That sounds like a bash? Are you going well offshore?

pieter97 · 07-04-2008, 14:31

More info can be found on:

Knysna Yacht Co. South Africa

44'cruisingcat · 07-04-2008, 14:32

Congratulations cat460!

Nordic cat · 07-04-2008, 14:54

Congratulations Tim.

I was in Knysna last year and took a few pictures of some of their 440's. Lovely place. Tried posting but there seems to be a problem.

I haven't seen the 47, is that a completely new design, or is it an extended version of another design like the Fastcat?

The 440 is a bit low in the water, probably only about 18" under the bridgedeck.

Please post some drawings/renders

Regards

Alan

Tropic Cat · 07-04-2008, 14:57

Congrats Tim - Welcome to the darkside !

cat480 · 07-04-2008, 15:08

Alan, I will post drawings soon. The 470 is an extended 440 but quite different in many ways. The sterns are wider and much more bouyant. Most of the added length is aft. The bridgedeck clearance has been increased to 850mm. The bimini is wider and longer. The winches are larger and the fore triangle is slightly bigger. The mast may grow a couple of feet, but we are not sure of that yet as the present 440 rig is quite large with the main at 800 sq. ft. Tim

Nordic cat · 07-04-2008, 15:21

Sounds like some sensible improvements! I would consider the taller rig, as you will need it in light conditions. Go for single line reefing for the first reef at least, then changing gears is easy.

Regards

Alan

Abaco · 08-04-2008, 09:24

Tim,

Congratulations on your new boat purchase. It will be a very long year for you. I look forward to coming aboard and meeting you at the Miami show. The Knysa website has a 440 but does not mention a 47 footer. Is the 47 an all new design, or have they stretch the current 44?

Thanks

cat480 · 08-04-2008, 09:56

Abaco, I look forward to meeting you in Miami and showing off the new boat. To answer your question. It is a designer modified stretched 44. It will look like a member of the Knysna family , but it will be quite different in many ways. More bouyancy ,longer waterline, significant increase in bridgedeck clearance. The sterns are much wider and able to carry the added weight of twin 40 hp engines and at the same time allowing for a very luxurious master cabin with walk around queen bed. It probably won't be as sprightly as the 440, but will be more comfortable at sea. Also the deck will be different in a few areas. The cockpit will be 18" longer and the bimini which is solid foam core will be wider and longer. Able to carry four solar panels and set up to catch rainwater.

fastcat435 · 08-04-2008, 11:40

Congratulations Cat 460 If the 47 sails almost as good as the St Francis 44 you have got a winner.
Looking forward to seeing the cat

Gideon

07-04-2008, 09:44	#1
cat480 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 18	I just bought my first cat I have been reading posts for several years and the information has been invaluable in helping me to narrow down my wish list. I finally found our boat in South Africa. It is a new Angelo Lavranos 47' er. Built by Knysna Yacht Co. in Knysna South Africa. It scores the highest on my wish list of all the boats on my list( read affordable boats) Galley up, mini keels, flat decks, 6'5" headroom. Large secure cockpit with bulkhead steering I would be happy to share info with any interested parties. I am located in the S.F. area. Tim

07-04-2008, 14:31	#7
pieter97 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15	Krysna More info can be found on: Knysna Yacht Co. South Africa

07-04-2008, 14:57	#10
Tropic Cat Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Merritt Island, FL Boat: Catalac 8M Posts: 1,352	Congrats Tim - Welcome to the darkside ! __________________ Rick in Florida Catalac 8M twin yanmar diesels Catalac Catamaran USA Web Site

07-04-2008, 15:08	#11
cat480 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 18	knysna 470 Alan, I will post drawings soon. The 470 is an extended 440 but quite different in many ways. The sterns are wider and much more bouyant. Most of the added length is aft. The bridgedeck clearance has been increased to 850mm. The bimini is wider and longer. The winches are larger and the fore triangle is slightly bigger. The mast may grow a couple of feet, but we are not sure of that yet as the present 440 rig is quite large with the main at 800 sq. ft. Tim

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07-04-2008, 10:04	#2
Southern Star Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Belleville, Ontario, Canada; Playa Zaragoza, Isla de Margarita Boat: 1994 Solaris Sunstream 40 'Estrella del Sur' Posts: 689	Congrats Tim- she sounds fabulous (and Lavranos has a very solid reputation). Looking forward to your imput in future. Brad

07-04-2008, 10:24	#3
imagine2frolic Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: N.E. Florida Boat: Simpson, Catamaran, 46ft. IMAGINE Posts: 1,943 Images: 112	HELLO TIM, In April of 92 I went for a day sail on Adventure Cat for the third year in a row on my birthday. Hanse knew I sailed the bay regularly, so he was brave enough to give me the wheel coming down the city front, and then turning for Angel Island. I looked off to the sterns, and glanced at the small rooster tails. The knot meter reading 18.5. I smiled at Hanse, and declared to him that when I grow up I would buy a cat too. 10 years later I did it, and have no regrets. Enjoy your new boat, and where will you start sailing her?

07-04-2008, 11:32	#4
cat480 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 18	I will be taking delivery at the Miami boat show next Feb. We will slowly make our way back to the West Coast and probably settle in Puerto Vallarta. I can't handle the cold weather the way I used to. I forgot to mention that it is also foam core including bulkheads , floors and furniture. Tim

07-04-2008, 13:32	#5
fastcat435 Commercial Vendor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Amstelveen Netherlands Boat: FastCat 455 Green Motion Posts: 1,208 Images: 4	Hallo Tim I was not able to find the boat on the internet please share the new design with me and tell me where to find this cat Greetings Gideon

07-04-2008, 13:44	#6
imagine2frolic Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: N.E. Florida Boat: Simpson, Catamaran, 46ft. IMAGINE Posts: 1,943 Images: 112	From Panama to P.V.? That sounds like a bash? Are you going well offshore?

07-04-2008, 14:32	#8
44'cruisingcat Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,507 Images: 32	Congratulations cat460!

07-04-2008, 14:54	#9
Nordic cat Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark Boat: FP Tobago 35 Posts: 601	Congratulations Tim. I was in Knysna last year and took a few pictures of some of their 440's. Lovely place. Tried posting but there seems to be a problem. I haven't seen the 47, is that a completely new design, or is it an extended version of another design like the Fastcat? The 440 is a bit low in the water, probably only about 18" under the bridgedeck. Please post some drawings/renders Regards Alan

07-04-2008, 15:21	#12
Nordic cat Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark Boat: FP Tobago 35 Posts: 601	Sounds like some sensible improvements! I would consider the taller rig, as you will need it in light conditions. Go for single line reefing for the first reef at least, then changing gears is easy. Regards Alan

08-04-2008, 09:24	#13
Abaco Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 81	Tim, Congratulations on your new boat purchase. It will be a very long year for you. I look forward to coming aboard and meeting you at the Miami show. The Knysa website has a 440 but does not mention a 47 footer. Is the 47 an all new design, or have they stretch the current 44? Thanks

08-04-2008, 09:56	#14
cat480 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 18	Abaco, I look forward to meeting you in Miami and showing off the new boat. To answer your question. It is a designer modified stretched 44. It will look like a member of the Knysna family , but it will be quite different in many ways. More bouyancy ,longer waterline, significant increase in bridgedeck clearance. The sterns are much wider and able to carry the added weight of twin 40 hp engines and at the same time allowing for a very luxurious master cabin with walk around queen bed. It probably won't be as sprightly as the 440, but will be more comfortable at sea. Also the deck will be different in a few areas. The cockpit will be 18" longer and the bimini which is solid foam core will be wider and longer. Able to carry four solar panels and set up to catch rainwater.

08-04-2008, 11:40	#15
fastcat435 Commercial Vendor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Amstelveen Netherlands Boat: FastCat 455 Green Motion Posts: 1,208 Images: 4	Congratulations Cat 460 If the 47 sails almost as good as the St Francis 44 you have got a winner. Looking forward to seeing the cat Gideon

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