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Old 18-11-2012, 06:40   #1
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Hydraulic Steering Cylinder Identification

After two aborted passages from Florida to Texas...now in Alabama...I found a leek around the shaft in the cylinder. I cannot find a brand name anywhere. About 12 inches long, bronze and round. It has square end caps held on with four external rods and nuts on both ends. there is a conical cap on the business end with three SS screws holding it in place. The rod extends at least 8.25 inches. Opposite the business end is a pivot. The rod only extends from the non pivoting end. I am guessing it is twenty years old maybe more. Any guesses as to brand?
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Old 18-11-2012, 06:57   #2
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Re: hydraulic steering cylinder identification

Wagner?--worked on 1 on a Ticonderoga wannabe.
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Old 18-11-2012, 08:59   #3
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Re: hydraulic steering cylinder identification

hey Brent,
is this for your Prout snowgoose? Most older Prouts were equipped with hynautics steering components...if your helm has three lines and you have a small pressurized reserve tank, it is probably a hynautics system. a great source for hynautics data is Capt Charlie's site: Hynautic Steering Identification
...we sent our leaking helm pump to him for repair and it has worked flawlessly now for over 3 years...you might also post a query on the Prout forum: Prout Owners Association
...if you could get a picture of it that would probably help a lot...

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Re: hydraulic steering cylinder identification

a hydraulic repair shop cold probably rebuild it for you...?
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Re: hydraulic steering cylinder identification

The Snowgoose is on at least its third helm pump. There is a Capilano 1210 on board and it has operating a Cap 1250v. The cylinder looks like the wagner drawing of the N series from the time the boat was made. I will try and dig out a picture.

They all seem to recommend copper tubing for the run. That seems bad in a salt water world.
I posted at Prout too, but that sites seems pretty inactive.
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Re: hydraulic steering cylinder identification

on the Hynautics the closest picture is the K4 or 5. There are two hoses only.
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The Snowgoose is on at least its third helm pump. There is a Capilano 1210 on board and it has operating a Cap 1250v. The cylinder looks like the wagner drawing of the N series from the time the boat was made. I will try and dig out a picture.

They all seem to recommend copper tubing for the run. That seems bad in a salt water world.
I posted at Prout too, but that sites seems pretty inactive.
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sounds like you need to retro fit a system from a differnt maker.
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Re: Hydraulic Steering Cylinder Identification

I can't see any reason a hydralic repair shop, or a good machine shop can't repair any hyd cylinder for ya ! if your handy ya can find seals at most hyd shops to repair it your self! if machining is nessary, most any backyard shop can fix ya up !! It could be something simple, just ck it out! seals and O rings are easy to find no matter who bilt the unit !!! All seals and bearings are metric, so ya can get parts for things of this sort unit most anywhere ya are !! just sayin hydralics are not that hard to fix !!!
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Old 18-11-2012, 21:53   #9
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Re: Hydraulic Steering Cylinder Identification

All good advice on the hydraulics but as the boat is 8 hours away and have paid two different folks to FIX the system I am trying to figure out as much as I can from here. I am pretty sure it will take one weekend to retrieve it and another to put it back. Problem is I am down to one weekend before March.

I just hate to keep paying for a FIX I can do myself. Sometimes you just get stuck.

Thanks to all for the help. Maybe something will fall in place tomorrow.

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Re: Hydraulic Steering Cylinder Identification

Brent,

My parents live in Fairhope Alabama along the eastern shore of Mobile bay. If you want, see if you can make your way there to fly creek marina. They can offer a tie up and my Dad can run you around to see about fixing it. I have a good budy in Fairhope who can hook you up and if need be, he can machine any part or get any seal you may need. email me here: baselinedesign at g mail dot com and I will get him to meet you and take you over to my buddy's shop.
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