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Old 26-10-2015, 19:04   #31
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Re: How slow and/or pokey are the Lagoon 39 and Leopard 40?

It's all relative.... pick the boat you want. Often speed is related to aggressiveness of the sailor.
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Old 27-10-2015, 09:51   #32
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Re: How slow and/or pokey are the Lagoon 39 and Leopard 40?

Recently chartered the 39. It is NOT a light air boat with main and jib. We had places to get to before dark and did not turn off the engines until the wind was over 10 knots true.

Given the light air on the Bay I would be careful. In a breeze it should be a blast, in typical Bay winds it motors well.
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Old 27-10-2015, 12:01   #33
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Re: How slow and/or pokey are the Lagoon 39 and Leopard 40?

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Headed down wind, wing to wing, 15 knot wind, 10+ knot boat speed.
Really? On a Lagoon 380? 15 true or apparent? More likely 25 true, 10 SOG, for 15 apparent.

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Re: How slow and/or pokey are the Lagoon 39 and Leopard 40?

Leopard 40 in the era that Morelli and Melvin were doing the design would be a better sailing boat than the Lagoon, by a margin.
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Re: How slow and/or pokey are the Lagoon 39 and Leopard 40?

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Interesting? My boat speed versus wind speed is entirely dependent on my point of sale. 15 knot wind, broad reach, 10 knot boat speed. 15 knot wind, going to windward, 5 to 7 knot boat speed depending on how high I point. Headed down wind, wing to wing, 15 knot wind, 10+ knot boat speed..
I really don't want to pick a fight, but seriously 15 knots and DDW you are doing 10 knots boat speed, seriously? Not really possible.
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Re: How slow and/or pokey are the Lagoon 39 and Leopard 40?

I consider the leopard 40 to be be the best sailing production cat in the size range. I have raced against both the 40'and 46. The 40 was fairly heavily loaded and was only a bit slower than a relatively lightly loaded 46. The owners of the 46 reported doing 15.5 knots in around 40 knots of wind. I did 16.5 on my fully loaded 34' cat the same day!
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Re: How slow and/or pokey are the Lagoon 39 and Leopard 40?

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Interesting? My boat speed versus wind speed is entirely dependent on my point of sale. 15 knot wind, broad reach, 10 knot boat speed. 15 knot wind, going to windward, 5 to 7 knot boat speed depending on how high I point. Headed down wind, wing to wing, 15 knot wind, 10+ knot boat speed.

That's with the boat loaded with stuff, 150 gallons of water, 50 gallons of fuel, 5kw generator, 200' of chain, 4 anchors, 300 lbs of tools, 200+ lbs of spare parts, + my 220 lbs and a fatter crew, etc.
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As others have pointed out... with boats that are far lighter (in relative size) , faster and more performance bent... no way, B S!
Gunboats (and faster boats) don't bragg those #'s...

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