Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 15-10-2017, 16:36   #76
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 23
Re: How do you judge if a beach is too "wavy" or if it will turn too unstable later?

Quote:
Originally Posted by 44'cruisingcat View Post
And ignore the advice of all the other experienced multihull skippers who are saying yes you can beach, but do it in places where there's NO SWELL to worry about.
I found the most reasonable thing to do in this situation.

Half of you say beach and half of you say anchor in deep water.
Since it is a catamaran that I will be sailing. I will put one hull on sand and the other in the water with an anchor. Then keep all night adjusting with the tide;


Fernando

edit: Thanks everyone for your thoughtful responses.
__________________

__________________
fernandosmooth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-10-2017, 16:44   #77
Registered User
 
PaulinOz's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: East Coast Australia on board L450
Boat: Lagoon 421(2010) & L450(2013)
Posts: 710
Images: 17
Re: How do you judge if a beach is too "wavy" or if it will turn too unstable later?

Quote: "Half of you say beach and half of you say anchor in deep water."

Go back and add up the deep water brigade and see how many of them sail a cat not a mono ? I think you will find it is not 50 : 50.
__________________

__________________
Condomaran owning, Lagoon fan boy who was once called Petal
PaulinOz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-10-2017, 20:54   #78
Senior Cruiser
 
senormechanico's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2003
Boat: Dragonfly 1000 trimaran
Posts: 5,795
Re: How do you judge if a beach is too "wavy" or if it will turn too unstable later?

Quote:
Originally Posted by atoll View Post
you mean you don't wait for a big wave and gunn the throttles........
this is how we do it in africa

We used to do that routinely in our Avon 3.10 RIB.
I learned the wave patterns by watching them and the local Mexican fishermen while they waited to beach their pangas.

It's really the easiest way to step out dry in the dink.

What? Doesn't everybody do that?
__________________
Memento,homo, quia pulvis es, et in pulverem reverteris.
senormechanico is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-10-2017, 21:05   #79
Senior Cruiser
 
senormechanico's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2003
Boat: Dragonfly 1000 trimaran
Posts: 5,795
Re: How do you judge if a beach is too "wavy" or if it will turn too unstable later?

Quote:
Originally Posted by fernandosmooth View Post
I found the most reasonable thing to do in this situation.

Half of you say beach and half of you say anchor in deep water.
Since it is a catamaran that I will be sailing. I will put one hull on sand and the other in the water with an anchor. Then keep all night adjusting with the tide;


Fernando

edit: Thanks everyone for your thoughtful responses.
You have GOT TO BE KIDDING.
I smell a troll. Maybe unrelated, but do an internet search for King Soloman and dividing the child for custody.
__________________
Memento,homo, quia pulvis es, et in pulverem reverteris.
senormechanico is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-10-2017, 21:28   #80
Senior Cruiser
 
Wanderlust's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: NSW Central Coast
Boat: Lagoon 410
Posts: 496
Re: How do you judge if a beach is too "wavy" or if it will turn too unstable later?

Quote:
Originally Posted by senormechanico View Post
You have GOT TO BE KIDDING.
Yes I think so.
__________________
Steve
Wanderlust is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-10-2017, 21:59   #81
Registered User
 
Panope's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Washington State
Boat: Colvin, Saugeen Witch (Aluminum), 34'
Posts: 1,588
Re: How do you judge if a beach is too "wavy" or if it will turn too unstable later?

We were anchored here for 3 days, in August. The daytime tidal cycle of day 2 was spent on the beach.

In addition to a nice clean bottom, the family found that having direct access to the boat made the day on the beach quite a bit more enjoyable. Everyone, including the youngins, could access the boat (instantly) for the head, food, or whatever notion and potion they fancied.

It was a luxurious way to spend the day on a beach. If a had a catamaran, I would do the same. Not worrying about the boat falling-over would be a bonus

Steve

Panope is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-10-2017, 00:20   #82
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Lake Macquarie NSW
Boat: Chamberlin 11.6 catamaran
Posts: 215
Re: How do you judge if a beach is too "wavy" or if it will turn too unstable later?

I think Steve's point about bumping all night is valid for surf beaches with a small shore break. I don't want to dry out there. But that is how the first proper cats made money. Manu Kai and its progeny taking paying passengers out from Waikiki beach and sailing through the waves to collect and drop off the guests. They did this back in 1948 so we are keeping a tradition alive by putting our noses on the sand.

I do a version of this with Kankama. When I have to load the boat with a heap of stuff I don't do dinghy trips, I gently run Kankama up the bank and tie her off to a tree. Then we throw the stuff on the nets or onto the bank. My family is good at climbing aboard over the forebeam. It is so much easier than dinghies or the wharf. People do stare a bit when they see me heading for the spot I like on the shore. But I don't stay long - about an hour max and then back to deep water. So poking the nose in is good for loading but you want a really flat spot for drying.

When settling with the tide in the spots I mentioned before we get a few minutes of gentle motion and then you slowly realise that the boat is solid when you walk around. It is very gentle and most people would miss when it happens.

As for bugs - it is easy to overplay this. We usually visit somewhere like Hill Inlet when the wind is going to be up, then there are no bugs. The worst night we ever had was in Canaipa Passage - 200m from shore.

Here is a my tip. If there are any waves on the shore - don't beach. If there may be waves in the next day or two on the beach - don't beach. It is not that hard really. Poking a nose in can be done with a little chop but not much for my boat.

I also make another plug for holding tanks. Pollution aside we need a holding tank as we spend a lot of time swimming around the sterns and our toilet is aft. So things could get very bad if someone swims when someone on board pumps the head - so a holding tank is a must. But on the hard, all you need is a bucket of salt water in the head and you can add the water to the toilet for flushing. Life can go on.

cheers

Phil
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Manu Kai on Beach.jpg
Views:	27
Size:	43.6 KB
ID:	157804  
__________________

__________________
catsketcher is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Abandoned catamaran "Be Good Too" found 3 years later terah Cruising News & Events 46 22-01-2017 23:24
Unstable Keel-quille de islander bahamas 30 bahamas Monohull Sailboats 5 03-12-2012 15:54
Unstable Mast/Genoa Combination Phoenician Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting 14 08-04-2011 07:22
Argh . . . Can You Judge a Boat by its Name ? watergypsy Off Topic Forum 35 13-09-2010 06:06



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:38.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.