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Old 24-07-2009, 07:43   #1
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Homemade Cat - What Do You Think?

That do you think about this home made catamaran built in 1995 in guatemala
50 feet
14 tonnes / 30 000 pounds
motor and electronic new from 2006
it is the KETCH
you can see the picture and plan in the attached file
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and some picture in jpeg

thank in advance for all your comment

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Old 24-07-2009, 08:22   #2
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That sounds pretty heavy for 50ft. I don't imagine she will break any speed records, but she will probably be very comfortable. What design is she?........i2f
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Old 24-07-2009, 09:41   #3
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Yes i am agree i found it quite heavy

Yes i am agree i found it quite heavy

the owner tell me that i can go to 6 knots with 15 knots of wind, i don't know exctaly in which condition)
and even don't realy know if it's good, but it look like more you need min 15 knots to get this catamaran going

i have no idee where does the design come from, and i think it is also a home made design

it's pretty good looking design
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Old 24-07-2009, 10:47   #4
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I guess it would depend on price being asked? I find the look a bit appealing. It kind of reminds me of Wharram designs. I don't like the striped cushions, but I do like the wood interior. It reminds me of my Imagine, but darker wood than Imagine.......i2f
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The ask price is about 150 000 USD, good price for the size of the boat, but is that a real good price
i know that the price is the price you want, and can pay
but if one day you want to sell it , an nobody want it, it's another problem

what to you think about this price for this boat
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Old 24-07-2009, 18:33   #6
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What construction is she (cold moulded ?)

and do my eyes deceive me,
does she have twin headsails tacked on the two bowsprits ?

If so it might be "working against" itself
and trimming the headsails a fulltime job ?

I would have thought you would get a better performance
with a cutter rig onto a central cross-strut or extending bow sprit ?
The ketch rig on a Cat is OK but a little harder to balance,
think the the twin headsails just another "complication"

Be interested to hear the reasoning or design philosphy of the builder
( I could not open the attachment) (techno idiot)

have you sailed her ?
how does she handle on a reach ?
looks like a nightmare waiting to happen on a tack?


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Old 24-07-2009, 18:38   #7
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Eyes are deceiving you, it's a Screecher out in front.

From a Google search...

"Given the reality that most people sail in relatively light winds (many ocean veterans say that 60 to 80% of their sailing is in winds from 5 to 15 kts), what is the alternative to a spinnaker, especially for catamarans with their reputation of sluggishness in light winds? Answer: the screecher! It is the perfect sail-power system to turbocharge your cat into a tiger. It gives you the ability to sail on a close, beam, or broad reach in 5 to 10 kts of wind. Screechers are now standard equipment on virtually all the newer designs (Farrier, Schionning, amongst others, and even some production cats)."

http://www.time-for-a-catamaran-adve...screecher.html
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Until you can get on-board and see how she was built, I don't know if anyone can give you a 3000 mile away survey. "Home built" can vary from inept to master craftsman in construction.

At the very least I suggest you try to get a couple of hundred bucks off because I2F does not like the salon cushions.

Seriously, if the seller is the builder the best thing is to chat him/her up and see if you can get a gut feeling on how things were done at build or if it has any good or bad habits etc. and then buy an airline ticket to see her.

Good luck and good sailing,

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u trouble maker u!!!!!!!!......i2f
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[quote=Gene :^);308534]Eyes are deceiving you, it's a Screecher out in front.

Opps immediately you said it, "eyes came right" lol
how "I love getting old"

we use our screecher all the time,
or did until we blew it to bits
clearing the North of Grenada in 12 kts
to be hit with 35 kts - gusting 40 kts = bang !
not paying attention time

but txs for the heads up Gene
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