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Old 23-07-2016, 18:14   #1
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Hamilton Island Race week

The Hamilton Island Race Week festivities are drawing close. In so far as Multi Hulls are concerned there are two divisions, racing and cruising. links to entries here Racing - Cruising and a link to the event here The event

Couple of interesting entries in the race class, including the TAG 60. There are promoted as super high performance - so we will see how it goes. Its very close sibling "earthling" is also entered. And from that 20 meter boat we go all the way down to an 8.5 metre Firefly - frequent Flyer. A really interesting mix of boats. line honors my money is on The Boat Works - and Handicap - Rythmic, but I really am just guessing.

The Cruising division is also interesting From Catana 59s to Seawind 1000s. My money is on last years winner - Talisker - a seawind 1160. Anyway should be fun to watch. Sadly I cannot make it this year.
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Re: Hamilton Island Race week

We had the winter series presentations at the CYCA on Friday night and we were talking about Hammo. I'm not going to be able to make it this year but we're thinking of heading up next year. Only on half a boat though ...
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Re: Hamilton Island Race week

They allow spinnakers in the cruising class. Otherwise I'd think about doing it.
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They allow spinnakers in the cruising class. Otherwise I'd think about doing it.
Yes , very wise, they don't like it when you motor down wind.

Then again, the standard was so low last year that the Chamberlin 14 STORM BAY was "dacked" by a seawind 1160, so it appears as though anyone stands a chance.
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I guess we'll see you entering then. You do have a boat, yes?
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Re: Hamilton Island Race week

The point of handicap racing is that anyone should stand a chance. (As long as they actually have a boat.)
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Yes , very wise, they don't like it when you motor down wind.

Then again, the standard was so low last year that the Chamberlin 14 STORM BAY was "dacked" by a seawind 1160, so it appears as though anyone stands a chance.
How dare he beat a chamberlain, and a catana or two for that matter. Does he not know his place. Anyway - One thing I know for sure is you aren't racing or in the cruising division, my interest lies with those who are.
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How dare he beat a chamberlain, and a catana or two for that matter. Does he not know his place. Anyway - One thing I know for sure is you aren't racing or in the cruising division, my interest lies with those who are.
Yeah, you do need to actually have a boat to go racing.
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Re: Hamilton Island Race week

Just prior to Hammo is the Airlie Beach Race week. It has just finished.

Cruising Division Entrants:

12.5 Metre Montebello
10.8 Metre Seawind
13.1 Metre Catana
12 Metre Open 40
12 Metre Open 40
7.3 Metre F24 Tri
12 Metre FP Lavezzi

In the cruising division - in across the line terms (over the course of the week there was more wind rather than less)

race 1 - Catana 431, Montebello 12.5, Farrier F24, Seawind 1000, Nautitech Open 40, Nautitch Open 40, FP Lavezzi

Race 2 - Farrier F24, Catana 431, Montebello 12.5, Seawind 1000, Nautitech Open 40, Nautitch Open 40, FP Lavezzi

Race 3 - Montebello, Seawind, Open 40, Lavezzi, F24, Open 40, Catana DNF

Race 4 - Catana, Seawind, Montebello, Open 40, Open 40, Lavezzi, F24 RET

Race 5 - Catana, Montebello, Open 40, Open 40, Lavezzi, F24 DNC, Seawind DNF

And on handicap the overall results are:

Montebello, Catana, Seawind, Open 40, F24, Open 40, Lavezzi.


What does that say - well quite a bit, leaving aside the F24 what we see is that the montebello catana and seawind were group A and the Open 40 and lavezzi were group B. I would expect the Catana 431 to do well, the **1 series catanas were in an era when Catana still gave a crap about performance and it was the only cat with dagger boards.

The open 40s are a disappointment.

But lets hold off till after next week when many of the same boats will be racing along with a much bigger field of about 28 boats in total.
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Handicaps are up for Hamilton Island Race week. See below, sorted in presumed slowest to fastest.

I am surprised that the FP is estimated to be slower than the lagoon 40. Also surprised that many of the Seawinds are presumed faster than the Catana. Some of the seawinds are in fact charter boats being rented by people for the series!. Se how it goes after the first race or so, its a hard job handicapping a non measured formula. Great field of 28 boats.

For the uninitiated the numbers are the handicap. So the handicappers are estimating that in every hour the FP 50 will be 16 minutes slower than the fastest boat (the Jenkins - Owner designed and built). Wish I was there, should be much fun!

Fountaine Pajot Saba 50 0.580
Lagoon 40 0.590
Montebello 12.5 0.670
Seawind 1000 0.670
Seawind 1000 0.670
Seawind 1000 0.670
Lightwave 0.680
Seawind 1000xl 0.680
Fontaine Pajot Levezzi 0.690
Nautitech Open 40 0.710
Catana 431 0.710
Seawind 1160 0.710
Seawind 1160 0.710
Seawind 1160 0.710
Seawind 1160 Cat 0.710
Custom Cat 0.720
Outremer 0.720
Leopard 484 0.720
Seawind 1160 0.730
Seawind 1250 0.730
Seawind 1250 0.730
Seawind 1160 0.730
Seawind 1160 0.730
Seawind 1250 0.730
Leopard 38 Cat 0.740
Chamberlin 14 0.780
Crowther Multihull 0.830
Jenkins 0.840
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Re: Hamilton Island Race week

I should point ot this is for the cruising division
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I'm not sure why we have an interest in a race series here on cruisers forum.

But i'm willing to participate.

Cruising division multihulls split in to two with most of the Seawinds in separate division.

First race and the Outremer driven by Mr SW himself managed to pip the SLOWEST boat (supposedly) by a mere 3 minutes, the FP50 on elapsed time.

Cue the excuses.

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I'm not sure why we have an interest in a race series here on cruisers forum.:
Because it is a CRUISING division. A rare chance to see what a range of boats can do on the same day in the same conditions. Of course there are some anomalies, eg some boats are charter boats that have been rented for the week, some like Van Nui are loaded up with all the new owners gear for their trip to Europe and so on, but it does give some objective insight.
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I'm not sure why we have an interest in a race series here on cruisers forum.
So what if it is a cruisers forum? Can't people have interest in racing

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Because it is a CRUISING division.
Why limit this thread to just the cruising division?

I just had a look at the race division boats, and the Schionning "Zero" looks pretty comfortable for cruising and I suspect that if I ever wanted to switch to the dark side (and won the lottery) something like that would be the way I'd want to go.

G-Force 1800 SSS

The Tag 60 "Stardust" looks pretty good too.

http://www.tagyachts.com/gallery/stardust/
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Handicaps are up for Hamilton Island Race week. See below, sorted in presumed slowest to fastest.

I am surprised that the FP is estimated to be slower than the lagoon 40. Also surprised that many of the Seawinds are presumed faster than the Catana. Some of the seawinds are in fact charter boats being rented by people for the series!. Se how it goes after the first race or so, its a hard job handicapping a non measured formula. Great field of 28 boats.

For the uninitiated the numbers are the handicap. So the handicappers are estimating that in every hour the FP 50 will be 16 minutes slower than the fastest boat (the Jenkins - Owner designed and built). Wish I was there, should be much fun!

Fountaine Pajot Saba 50 0.580
Lagoon 40 0.590
Montebello 12.5 0.670
Seawind 1000 0.670
Seawind 1000 0.670
Seawind 1000 0.670
Lightwave 0.680
Seawind 1000xl 0.680
Fontaine Pajot Levezzi 0.690
Nautitech Open 40 0.710
Catana 431 0.710
Seawind 1160 0.710
Seawind 1160 0.710
Seawind 1160 0.710
Seawind 1160 Cat 0.710
Custom Cat 0.720
Outremer 0.720
Leopard 484 0.720
Seawind 1160 0.730
Seawind 1250 0.730
Seawind 1250 0.730
Seawind 1160 0.730
Seawind 1160 0.730
Seawind 1250 0.730
Leopard 38 Cat 0.740
Chamberlin 14 0.780
Crowther Multihull 0.830
Jenkins 0.840
Is the FP 50 26 minutes slower than the Jenkins?
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