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Old 01-04-2015, 08:30   #841
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Re: GUNBOAT Dismasting

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On a rotating rig of that height, I would call that just about normal,...maybe just a little loose. But rotating rigs need slack at their mast attachment point to facilitate mast rotation without excessive 'binding'.

Did you also notice the slack leeward shroud on 'Tiger Lily" (another Gunboat model) at about minute 2:22
I assume you are talking about Min 2.20 on the movie? Yes the shrouds move a lot but the situation is different: Tiger Lilly is passing a big wave and the mast is pumping. On the Gunboat 55 (1.35) the boat is sailing on almost flat water, with little waves.

That raises another question since we can see Tribe, just at the beginning of the movie, sailing with big waves and with nowhere the slack on the shrouds that Tiger Lily or the Gunboat 55 show on the movie. So, do they use substantially different tuning on Gunboat rigs? and if so that seems odd to me since the rigs are very similar.
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Old 11-04-2015, 08:57   #842
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Visited NC boatyard Friday and saw this unfinished Gunboat with a hard bulkhead along the back of cockpit area. Some owner wised up and knows something.
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Visited NC boatyard Friday and saw this unfinished Gunboat with a hard bulkhead along the back of cockpit area. Some owner wised up and knows something.
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Nice update.

I visited the yard and walked through a few 55s last year, when the GB 55 was near the top of my list for a "circumnavigating couple cat." If a hard enclosure was an option, with the saloon being more of a "living room" than a working cockpit meant to take on water and be hosed out, I think I could've gotten the wife onboard with the purchase.

It seems to be a perfect racing boat, and it felt like it could've been made into a fine cruiser (for a weight-conscious couple), but it just wasn't enough of a live-aboard for us to go with. Maybe future iterations will find the right balance for those who want what we were after.
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Visited NC boatyard Friday and saw this unfinished Gunboat with a hard bulkhead along the back of cockpit area. Some owner wised up and knows something.
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Old 16-04-2015, 08:15   #845
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Re: GUNBOAT Dismasting

Interesting update on RAINMAKER, according to the chatter over on Sailing Anarchy...

She was spotted a few weeks ago by a merchant vessel, no position given... This is confirmed by Mr Clean from SA. Photos were taken, and according to one who claims to have seen them, the coachroof/greenhouse/salon/whatever you want to call it was gone...

Then, just the other day, another poster claims to have heard from someone in the insurance business that she has actually been towed into port by a fishing trawler, which for whatever reason declined a claim of salvage... No location was given, nor is there any independent confirmation of this account, at least that I'm aware of...

It's surprising that if she was towed into a harbor along the Mid-Atlantic or NE coast, the word hasn't gotten out beyond some marine insurance industry 'insider', or that some pics haven't surfaced... so, I'll take that last one with a grain of salt for the time being... That possibility would seem a bit more likely had she been brought back into someplace in Nova Scotia, or Newfoundland, perhaps...

Nevertheless, interesting, to say the least... :-)
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Re: GUNBOAT Dismasting

Thanks Jon. Very interesting update.
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Old 16-04-2015, 10:03   #847
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Re: GUNBOAT Dismasting

Have you got a link? It's not in the "prayer" thread.
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Have you got a link? It's not in the "prayer" thread.
Sorry, it's on this page of the "Rainmaker Dismasted" thread, scroll down to #1931 for the first mention that she was sighted...

RAINMAKER DISMASTED OFF HATTERAS IN GALE - Page 20 - Sailing Anarchy - Sailing Anarchy Forums
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Old 23-04-2015, 20:45   #849
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Re: GUNBOAT Dismasting

Just wondering about the S-AIS system onboard. I did a search to see if it was discussed but didn't find any post on it. So wouldn't the S-AIS have been able to locate vessel?
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It appears that she was taking on water which would have killed the electrics. So no AIS.
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Old 23-04-2015, 21:38   #851
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The mast was cut away too and that's where the antenna was. Plus I don't know whether or not the GB had the S-AIS system aboard. Also when the window broke open and let the sea enter, that could have destroyed the electronics. Once those systems went out, so went any control they had with the vessel, I imagine
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Fair to say it did better than this:


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Fair to say it did better than this:


Did you hear the last sentence? "Get a hammer"
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It is understood that the Phoebe was a 66 foot Gunboat. But a Gunboat nonetheless. One catastrophic Gunboat dismantling is an accident. Two Gunboat dismastings is a trend. And given the percentages against how many Gunboats are out there if it were a car it would be being recalled.
Phaedo is set up as a race boat and sailed as a race boat. I've seen chevy's crash at Daytona and Drag strips. Should we then question all chevy's in all conditions?

Rain Maker was in extraordinary circumstances. I've seen Jeep's roll and break in Moab. Should we then question all Jeeps in all conditions?

well thats my 2 cents
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They have improved a lot: now they can capsize without breaking the mast, at least sometimes

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