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Old 31-01-2015, 13:56   #46
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Re: GUNBOAT Dismasting

Hyperbole much???
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And therein lies the weakness of the catamaran. It's inability to heel to the wind and relieve the strain on the rig....
Complete and utter garbage. You could just as easily say deep keeled boats have the same weakness - they are stiffer so don't "relieve the strain" blah blah...

It's simply a matter of sizing the standing rigging appropriately.

Obviously when a new boat loses it's mast, there has been some fault in the rigging that hasn't been seen.
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is a Gunboat 55 really $2,500,000?? ... and it broke!!!??? forget that.
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is a Gunboat 55 really $2,500,000?? ... and it broke!!!??? forget that.
So it it didn't break, you would be buying one?

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So it it didn't break, you would be buying one?

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Quite honestly... I had heard a lot of good things about it.. wasn't too sure about the location of the helm but that aside had thought it worth a look.. didn't know it was anywhere near that much tho. there's a lot of 45-60 cats out there for a lot less than that and at that price.. a lot better value for money too.. so yes.. but no
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Re: GUNBOAT Dismasting

OMG!!!!

It had a carbon mast!

I have a carbon mast!!

I'm doomed!!!!

How did I ever make it back alive????

Anybody wanna buy a 14 year old boat with an original mast that has been around Cape Horn and hasn't broke.......? It must be due any second..... I'm on borrowed time, obviously.

On a serious note, the US Navy's bathtub curve comes to mind here. It's a graph of component failures vs time. Just picture an elevation view of a bathtub and you'll get the idea.

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So it it didn't break, you would be buying one?

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Well now im not getting one. Refund please.

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In the video posted on the other thread you can see the mast is just forward of the helm and a lot of windows. Assuming 1 or 2 windows were damaged or knocked out by the mast or boom or both, or the cabin top was cracked then water was likely mixing with electronic engine controls. Assuming rigging fouled a prop or rudder and washing machine conditions of the gulf stream battling a north wind swell and maybe no storm anchor aboard or rigged for quick deployment, assuming not everyone aboard was experienced with gulf stream rage on a vessel smaller than a cargo ship then calling for help is the next step.

Assuming a pro weather router told the skipper that there was a window and was wrong then might the insurance company sue the router's insurance?
Seriously, your not really blamming the weather router... Are you?
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OMG!!!!



It had a carbon mast!



I have a carbon mast!!



I'm doomed!!!!



How did I ever make it back alive????



Anybody wanna buy a 14 year old boat with an original mast that has been around Cape Horn and hasn't broke.......? It must be due any second..... I'm on borrowed time, obviously.





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I will raise you one carbon mast! I have two and have twice the opportunity for doom!!! Even more dangerous than your mast, both of my masts are freestanding....😁😁😁


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Anybody wanna buy a 14 year old boat with an original mast that has been around Cape Horn and hasn't broke.......? It must be due any second..... I'm on borrowed time, obviously.
I'll give you $100.
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Re: GUNBOAT Dismasting

You gotta figure a 70 knot wind against a strong Gulf Stream current was making some big SQUARE waves. If they were 13 feet, that's an impressive wall of water!

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OMG!!!!

It had a carbon mast!

I have a carbon mast!!

I'm doomed!!!!

How did I ever make it back alive????

Anybody wanna buy a 14 year old boat with an original mast that has been around Cape Horn and hasn't broke.......? It must be due any second..... I'm on borrowed time, obviously.
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funny.. One thing I did learn though in my time as a serious cyclist... there's carbon and there's carbon... yours just may be the latter and better form. I just think as a new and early hull, PR wise its a bit of a disaster.
... just thought.. i'll raise 44 cruisingcat by $20...
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I'll give you $100.
US or Aus $?
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You gotta figure a 70 knot wind against a strong Gulf Stream current was making some big SQUARE waves. If they were 13 feet, that's an impressive wall of water!
Typically, the GS in that area runs SW to NE. So NW winds (as reported) are perpendicular to the current. It's the perfect place to cross because it's narrow there and I've done it numerous times (but not in January) in conjunction with a cold front - get across during the pre-frontal clocking SW to W to NW winds and ride the post-frontal N clocking to NE winds like a sleigh ride. It sounds like the decision makers may have been planning such a strategy, but the winter N Atlantic Gods did not behave. The timing is dicey, to say the least.

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Unfortunately, Jon, I suspect you are correct. And, there is a certain sad irony in the yacht's name, "Rain Maker"-in business typically someone who generates business for a firm--which I suspect Gun Boat officials expected of the boat at the boat show. The outcome of the effort may have the reverse effect...
A bit more information trickling out... My hunch about Miami was wrong (wouldn't be the first time ;-)) Sounds like she was not bound for Miami after all, but rather the E Caribbean... According to this poster over on SA, this trip should have been a walk in the park, a sleighride all the way... Hell, they might have been wishing for even MORE breeze...

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