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Old 28-03-2008, 17:28   #46
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I imagine most of us with an interest in the Gunboats have seen this video of them passing a huge monohull racing boat like it's standing still-but for those who haven't-what fun!

UnCut Video - Now Playing "The Fabulous GunBoat 62 Sailboat"
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Old 28-03-2008, 18:29   #47
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Great video, thanks. Although the forward helm looks like alot of fun on the Gunboats and Atlantics for the most part, it would seem to get a little hectic during the stormy stuff. Anyone here been on a forward helm when the rough stuff kicks up?
Since they have inside helms, there is no reason to hang out outside if the going gets wet. I used to have a pilot house with inside steering, and I loved it. It's not just a motorboat thing, I sailed from inside all the time. The windvane did most of the steering, and you could hang out in the pilot house and keep watch. In a fast cat, the autopilot would do the same job, and you could even adjust it from inside.
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Old 29-03-2008, 07:43   #48
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I usually don't play the lottery but it looks like I will start . Thanks for that link, I have seen that one, never gets old though....
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Old 31-03-2008, 10:30   #49
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Can all Cats do 30knots? Multihull Catamaran Sailing Yachts, Luxury Catamarans - Gunboat

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Sure if they drop off the top of a 100 ft. wave.
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Old 31-03-2008, 10:56   #51
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Actually, on careful examination, the mono was pointing much higher, fell off as the Gunboat approached, but didn't seem to ease its sheets at all for the reach. If the polars are to be believed, the Gunboat doesn't hit 30 knots except on a beam reach. The construction is much more high tech and expensive than it used to be, as I understand it. I have read that the first examples were glass layups with high tech fabric only for highly stressed locations such as the tops of frames, stringers, etc.
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The Raichle-Pugh did have to bear off to avoid a collision when they already had rights. It would have been nice to see the skipper of the Gunboat be a gentleman and hold his original course at a higher heading and THEN see how it does against the monohull. Most any cat on a beam reach is going to go like hell compared to a monohull...so what was the point of bearing off and driving right over the top of him? I could imagine hearing the racers on board the monohull saying "what an a--!"

I wonder if this was a staged event or not. If not, I would be a little ticked off having someone who does not have rights alter course and bear down on me like that. It's not gentlemanly behavior and its breaking the rules as well.
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I do think it was staged. But I think the mono changed course because of a windshift - the sails luffed just before he bore away.
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Yes, no doubt about it, the Gunboat should have passed under the mono's lee-the fact that the mono didn't trim for the new course demonstrated that this wasn't in any way a reasonable comparison between the two, and as you say, a cat reaching is bound to be faster anyway.
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I do think it was staged. But I think the mono changed course because of a windshift - the sails luffed just before he bore away.
I think it is more likely they sheeted out so they could bear away. That would have been one hell of a header. The Gunboats sails were never luffing as they would have been in the same header....why bear off and continue heading towards the mono hull? ...thats just rude.

Look more carefully at the video, the monohull is harder on the wind before they get overtaken than after.
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BTW I saw a mono overtaking a catamaran today. The one day of the year it would happen.
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BTW I saw a mono overtaking a catamaran today. The one day of the year it would happen.
Let me guess... An Aussie 18 overtook a Lagoon?
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I do think it was staged. But I think the mono changed course because of a windshift - the sails luffed just before he bore away.
I think the sail luff was the result of the cat blocking the mono's wind. She had to bear off to maintain headway and avoid a collision.
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I don't think the mono had to bear away to avoid a collision. The onus to avoid the collision was clearly on the cat. I doubt if the (million dollar plus) cat would have just sailed into the mono - they would certainly have changed course, if they hadn't known IN ADVANCE that the mono was going to make room.

But as I said before, I think it was a staged event. I don't think it was any co-incidence that these two boats AND a helicopter with a camera aboard all happend to be in the same place at the same time, going in the same direction, and on a point of sail that suited the cat perfectly...
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