Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 05-03-2009, 16:08   #46
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Colombo
Posts: 1,059
Quote:
Originally Posted by Christian Van H View Post
Guys, I started this thread as a joke.
That's a relief - I thought you were serious and had been about to tell you to go and wash yer mouth out with soap .
__________________

__________________
MidLandOne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2009, 16:56   #47
Kai Nui
Guest

Posts: n/a
I just figured with all this encouragement we might be able to convert you. After all, it IS the next logical step. An $2 mil. Hell, that's just pocket change. Right
__________________

__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2009, 17:16   #48
Registered User
 
Full Sail's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Florida
Boat: FP Bahia 46
Posts: 113
Chris- Didn't I tell you some time back not to mix relegion and politics!!!!
__________________
Full Sail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2009, 16:08   #49
Registered User
 
C--man's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Noosa, Australia
Boat: 9' Zociac (fastroller)
Posts: 60
Images: 1
too much of a gin-palace inside for me, too much loose chairs ect

and I don't like all the wood walls.

the outside looks nice.
__________________
C--man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2009, 16:51   #50
Registered User
 
Christian Van H's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Princeton, NJ
Boat: Challenger Anacapa 42
Posts: 2,097
Images: 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by C--man View Post
too much of a gin-palace inside for me
Dude, you sail a 9' "Zociac" and you think this is a gin palace?
__________________
www.anacapas.com

Here's to swimmin' with bowlegged women!
Christian Van H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2009, 17:07   #51
Registered User
 
C--man's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Noosa, Australia
Boat: 9' Zociac (fastroller)
Posts: 60
Images: 1
The Zodic will fit nicely on my next boat.......

just my opinion..
__________________
C--man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2009, 17:13   #52
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: South East Asia
Boat: 122 year old Historical Sailing vessel
Posts: 121
Hi Slap,

I can tell you have never taken a long trip on a cat we will leave the rough seas bit out for now as that would be really unfair to the things. Yes on anchor and in marinas ( which is what they were / are built for) they may rule, though some with taste may disagree with that statement... but they do not work to windward on a good day much less a day with some breeze and sea running, Just an excuse to put sails on a house boat if you ask me... oh , and charge a lot for doing so.

If you want two boats, then why not just buy two real boats and be done with it?

All in fun maties all in fun says he laughing
__________________
H/V Vega is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2009, 17:16   #53
Registered User
 
Christian Van H's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Princeton, NJ
Boat: Challenger Anacapa 42
Posts: 2,097
Images: 57
Yeah Vega! Didn't they something similar about steam a little while ago...
__________________
www.anacapas.com

Here's to swimmin' with bowlegged women!
Christian Van H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 15:49   #54
cruiser

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: No longer post here
Boat: Catalac Catamaran
Posts: 2,462
I have to weigh in on the steering question. Even with older cats, you're disconnected from the feel of the boat. I too like the feel of a tiller on a well balanced mono. Having said that, there's no way that out weighs a cat's benefits.

I assure you, there's no mono in my future .. Now...a larger cat? Probably..
__________________
Tropic Cat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 17:35   #55
Registered User

Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by H/V Vega View Post
but they do not work to windward on a good day much less a day with some breeze ......

All in fun maties all in fun says he laughing
I wonder if Michael Fay was laughing about the windward abilities of cats in 1988?

The 1988 America’s Cup races: 7 to 9 September 1988 off San Diego, California.
Best two out of three races.

Stars & Stripes
raced against the huge 90 feet mono-hull challenger New Zealand KZ-1

Races: two sailed.

Race Course:
Alternate courses
First race 40 nautical miles long, one windward leg (20 miles) and return.
Second race 39 nautical miles, triangular course (13 miles by leg, first windward, two and three reaching leg).

Results:

Stars & Stripes beat New Zealand KZ-1 by two wins to nil!

- 7 September 1988, 1st race. Wind speed: 7 to 9 knots. Stars & Stripes beat New Zealand by 18 minutes and 15 sec.

- 9 September 1988, 2nd race. Wind speed: 6 to 15 knots. Stars & Stripes beat New Zealand by 21 minutes and 10 sec.


Beaten by 18 minutes in a 40mile windward-leeward race.... that's a serious ass kicking.
__________________
badlattitude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 18:19   #56
Registered User
 
c.spots's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Now in Davao, the Philippines.
Boat: Leopard 40 catamaran
Posts: 121
Send a message via Skype™ to c.spots
Beware of the spinners of tales calling multihulls the dark side. (After all, once you get rid of all that lead or whatever ballast, the multihull is clearly on the light side.)

Although they may not know of which they speak, I certainly admire their courage. Imagine, sailing the blue seas in a vessel capable of sinking to the bottom like a rock. Most only have one engine and rudder, choosing not to carry a spare, all set up and ready to go. No wonder they live deep down in the cabins where they can't see the dangers which lurk.
__________________
Robert W.
c.spots
www.changingspots.net

Life shouldn't be a race to the finish line - enjoy the journey.
c.spots is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 18:29   #57
cruiser

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: No longer post here
Boat: Catalac Catamaran
Posts: 2,462
Sooner or later the enlightened 1/2 boat owners come into the light
__________________
Tropic Cat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 18:36   #58
cruiser

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: No longer post here
Boat: Catalac Catamaran
Posts: 2,462
Quote:
Originally Posted by H/V Vega View Post

If you want two boats, then why not just buy two real boats and be done with it?

All in fun maties all in fun says he laughing
I think his catamaran envy is rather apparent. Cheer up mate one day you'll own a full boat and forget all about 1/2 boats.
__________________
Tropic Cat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 22:06   #59
Kai Nui
Guest

Posts: n/a
Keep it light. No reason to throw mud. Monos and multis both have their place. For each individual cruiser there is a perfect boat.
For my wife and I, a multi is the best solution due to her neck problem. Living life at 15 degrees is not an option. OTOH, if I was cruising by myself, a small mono would be my first choice. Heavy, wood, cutter rigged.
The fact is, there are as many designs of boats as there are sailors to sail them. The boat that is right for me, would probably not be right for you.
So, why don't we stop picking on other people's boats, and talk about how great our own boats are for our needs.
My old, heavy, slow trimaran is about to get some new components that are unconventional, and would probably make most boat builders cringe.
That pilot house I added, I built doors. I can't get them to seal. So, I am going to pick up some exit doors from a Peterbilt sleeper. They will fit. They will seal, and they will meet my needs.
For the interior, I gave up on the dinette, and setee, and am installing 4 pedastal chairs. May sound odd, and the million dollor yacht crowd is probably thinking trailer trash, but my wife now feels like there is more room in the boat. That is worth allot.
I have liked all of my boats. Not because they were monos or multis, but because they suited my needs.
As for better? My boat is better for me than your boat. As your boat is better for you than my boat.
Oh, and Chris, I still have to agree that would be a step up from the Challenger, but, not sure it is a 2 million dollar improvement
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 22:21   #60
Registered User
 
cat man do's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Brisbane Australia [until the boats launched]
Boat: 50ft powercat, light,long and low powered
Posts: 4,409
Images: 36
Quote:
Originally Posted by H/V Vega View Post
Don't worry you will grow out of it just like you did the training wheels on your first push bike. All glitz and marketing hype with no windward at all. If you want two boats then buy two good boats and be done with it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by H/V Vega View Post
Hi Slap,

I can tell you have never taken a long trip on a cat we will leave the rough seas bit out for now as that would be really unfair to the things. Yes on anchor and in marinas ( which is what they were / are built for) they may rule, though some with taste may disagree with that statement... but they do not work to windward on a good day much less a day with some breeze and sea running, Just an excuse to put sails on a house boat if you ask me... oh , and charge a lot for doing so.

If you want two boats, then why not just buy two real boats and be done with it?

All in fun maties all in fun says he laughing

Quote:

Ludite definition of Ludite in the Free Online Encyclopedia.
Luddite

An individual who is against technological change. Luddite comes from Englishman Ned Lud, who rose up against his employer in the late 1700s. Subsequently, "Luddites" emerged in other companies to protest and even destroy new machinery that would put them out of a job. A neo-Luddite is a Luddite in the Internet age.
How did that work out for you H/V Vega?

Did you save the world from technology?

Dave
__________________

__________________
"Money can't buy you happiness but it can buy you a yacht large enough to pull up right alongside it"...............David Lee Roth
Long Distance Motorboat Cruising – It Is Possible on a Small Budget
cat man do is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Don't Know Where to Start - But Would Love to Cruise Subguy Training, Licensing & Certification 22 13-03-2009 19:19
LOVE THEM OR LEAVE THEM? Keegan General Sailing Forum 29 28-11-2007 20:24
Good god... I'm losing it. Battery switches?? ssullivan Electrical: Batteries, Generators & Solar 37 15-03-2006 15:22
My God--looka that !!! 29cascadefixer General Sailing Forum 5 04-06-2003 05:57



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 23:58.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.